Rank the Following Current Fighters by Their Historical Legacy As of Now

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  1. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Ie, if they retired today, are they? All time great? Hall of Famer? Elite? Not even that? If they're all time great, where do they rank? Top 100? Top 50? Top 20? Higher?

    No need to answer them all, but the following are people I see listed as pound for pounders:

    Oleksandr Usyk
    Naoya Inoue
    Terence Crawford
    Errol Spence
    Canelo Alvarez
    Dmitry Bivol
    Vasily Lomachenko
    Josh Taylor
    Jermell Charlo
    Juan Francisco Estrada
    Kazuto Ioka
    Kenshiro Teraji
    Roman Gonzalez
    Shakur Stevenson
    Artur Beterbiev
    Tyson Fury
     
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    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Roman Gonzalez
    Oleksandr Usyk
    Canelo Alvarez
    Naoya Inoue
    Vasyl Lomachenko
    Juan Francisco Estrada
    Kazuto Ioka
    Errol Spence
    Tyson Fury
    Josh Taylor
    Terence Crawford
    Dmitry Bivol
    Artur Beterbiev
    Jermell Charlo
    Kenshiro Teraji
    Shakur Stevenson
     
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  3. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Too many peeps ffs

    Top echelon as of NOW:

    Inoue
    Usyk
    Fury

    2nd tier as of NOW:

    Crawford
    Canelo
    Jermell
    Spence
    Loma

    3rd tier as of NOW:

    Beterbiev
    Bivol

    4th tier as of NOW:

    Josh Taylor

    Dont know enough about Ioka, Estrada, Gonzalez, and Teraji. Shakur is hardly just starting out..
     
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  4. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Oleksandr Usyk - ATG
    Naoya Inoue - HOF on the way to ATG
    Terence Crawford - HOF
    Errol Spence - On the way to HOF
    Canelo Alvarez - ATG
    Dmitry Bivol - No where yet but possible HOF
    Vasily Lomachenko - HOF
    Josh Taylor - None of the above.
    Jermell Charlo - None of the above
    Juan Francisco Estrada - HOF - Possible ATG
    Kazuto Ioka - HOF - ATG
    Kenshiro Teraji - HOF
    Roman Gonzalez - ATG
    Shakur Stevenson - No where yet but with big potential
    Artur Beterbiev - No where yet but possible HOF
    Tyson Fury - HOF
     
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  5. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Josh Taylor, Ioka, Kenshiro, and Estrada don’t belong on this list. They’re all really good but they’re not on the same level as the rest.
     
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  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jermell and Taylor will probably be HOF for becoming undisputed.
     
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  7. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    Estradas resume is Miles better than Jermell Charlo.
     
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  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    How exactly? Through mitosis?:sisi1
     
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  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    LOL I meant Jermell and Taylor.
     
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  10. Young Terror

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    Ffs Ioka and Estrada not on the level of Jermell Charlo. The stupidity on this forum never ceases to amaze me.
     
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  11. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Yeah, whoops, I meant rate, not rank.
     
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  12. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    I feel like Ioka in particular gets a lot of disrespect. Both of his losses are cons, he's a four division champ who was unified at 105, and if you look at his resume, it's very good:

    Tanaka (3 div champ)
    Yaegashi (3 div champ)
    Nietes (4 div champ)
    Alvarado (light flyweight champ for four years)
    Draw vs Franco (Super fly champ for 3 years so far)
    Robbery loss vs Ruenroeng (flyweight champion with good resume)
    Sithmorseng (Minimum-weight champ for a year)
    Reveco (WBA flyweight champion)
    Hernandez (WBC flyweight champion)
    Sithsamerchai (WBC minimum-weight champion for four years)

    Also, Ioka has been fighting at the top level for a very long time. He won his first world title in 2011.
     
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  13. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I hope you're wrong but you're probably right. I think it should be the defenses of the undisputed title which makes a fighter HOF-worthy not just becoming undisputed.
     
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  14. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oleksandr Usyk : ATG: No. 1 Cruiser of all time. If he was to retire tomorrow unfortunately the best I could rate him at HW would be top 30 all time because we haven't seen enough.
    Naoya Inoue ATG, best japanese fighter of all time.
    Terence Crawford HOF, Top 5 at 140.
    Errol Spence Elite Welter in his prime, not anywhere near ATG but the HOF is BS, so he's probably in already.
    Canelo Alvarez ATG with added beef, HOF only beef free.
    Dmitry Bivol HOF, got my doubts he's ATG yet.
    Vasily Lomachenko ATG.
    Josh Taylor HOF, Top 10 140.
    Jermell Charlo HOF
    Juan Francisco Estrada HOF
    Kazuto Ioka HOF
    Kenshiro Teraji HOF
    Roman Gonzalez ATG
    Shakur Stevenson HOF
    Artur Beterbiev ATG Top 10 at LHW but I am biased here, he's my fav fighter.
    Tyson Fury Borderline elite HW.
    I would like to expand on my answers when not pressed for time.
     
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  15. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Without question, takes a lot less to get in nowadays.
     
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