Rank the Following Current Fighters by Their Historical Legacy As of Now

Sooncreate3 · Apr 16, 2023

JunlongXiFan said: ↑

Well, I exaggerated a lot looking at it again, but it's still quite bad.

Lomachenko and Fury are way too high. They both have pretty abhorrent resumes compared to some of the fighters ranked below them, like Inoue. I do believe though that Inoue can surpass Loma and Ioka if he scores an impressive win against Fulton.

Fury has beaten three fighters ranked by The Ring when he beat them in his career:

Klitschko was actually very good but an old man, Wilder has only one good win (vs a 38 year old man) and Chisora has maybe a few wins vs good fighters but has lost 13 times.

I mean, seriously, how can you have Fury above Canelo? Canelo has beaten Kovalev, Golovkin, Cotto, Jacobs and so many lower tier champions. I mean, Kovalev, Golovkin, Cotto are all legitimate HoFers (Golovkin and Cotto border ATG) and were all younger than the Fury version of Klitschko by a lot when Canelo beat them.
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In my opinion, I do see fighters like Lomachenko, Inoue, and Ioka in a similar level as they have similar longevity and level of opposition (all these fighters are elite class fighters). So for them, they can be interchangeable (Ioka, imo, has a pretty deep resume if you explore into it more like look at the things he did at 105).

In regards to why I ranked Fury over Canelo (which is also very close), look at the best fighters they fought. Let's look at the best fighters they have a win over on paper. On paper, Fury's best win was Wladmir Klitschko (I know everyone says he is 39 yrs old but the guy still maintained a strong win streak (~18 title defenses) and beat Jennings decisively at the time and was like around Top 5 or 6 P4P; also everyone seems to agree that Klitschko deserves his place in the HOF and is like Top 15-20 HW). For Canelo, his best win on paper was GGG (had like 10+ title defenses at MW and was considered like Top 3 P4P at the time in the first fight; usually considered either borderline HOF or future HOF based on your preferences). If you actually watched the fights, Canelo looked terrible against Golovkin in the first 2 fights (better in the 2nd fight but there's a good argument that GGG edged him) and GGG was consistently outlanding him and beating him to punches. Meanwhile, Fury made Klitschko look like a fool and was clowning around the whole fight, never going past first gear. There's a good argument that Fury dominated Klitschko and Wilder well (except 3rd fight with Wilder where he struggled more than usual).

But hey, this is just my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. That's what makes this forum interesting.

JunlongXiFan · Apr 16, 2023

Sooncreate3 said: ↑

In my opinion, I do see fighters like Lomachenko, Inoue, and Ioka in a similar level as they have similar longevity and level of opposition (all these fighters are elite class fighters). So for them, they can be interchangeable (Ioka, imo, has a pretty deep resume if you explore into it more like look at the things he did at 105).

In regards to why I ranked Fury over Canelo (which is also very close), look at the best fighters they fought. Let's look at the best fighters they have a win over on paper. On paper, Fury's best win was Wladmir Klitschko (I know everyone says he is 39 yrs old but the guy still maintained a strong win streak (~18 title defenses) and beat Jennings decisively at the time and was like around Top 5 or 6 P4P; also everyone seems to agree that Klitschko deserves his place in the HOF and is like Top 15-20 HW). For Canelo, his best win on paper was GGG (had like 10+ title defenses at MW and was considered like Top 3 P4P at the time in the first fight; usually considered either borderline HOF or future HOF based on your preferences). If you actually watched the fights, Canelo looked terrible against Golovkin in the first 2 fights (better in the 2nd fight but there's a good argument that GGG edged him) and GGG was consistently outlanding him and beating him to punches. Meanwhile, Fury made Klitschko look like a fool and was clowning around the whole fight, never going past first gear. There's a good argument that Fury dominated Klitschko and Wilder well (except 3rd fight with Wilder where he struggled more than usual).

But hey, this is just my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. That's what makes this forum interesting.
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I think your opinion comes from a level of ignorance and poor critical reasoning on this specific topic. You are entitled to your own opinion in the same way that a drunken bum is entitled to sleep in his vomit later that night. I, of course, am "entitled" to tell you that your opinion is ridiculous. I don't gain any form of enjoyment from reading nonsense.

Yes, you can say age doesn't matter because Klitschko had 18 title defenses before. Why don't we also say that Klitschko beat Fury because he was in the ring with him? Anything is possible with a dull mind which will believe anything it presents to itself. A sharp mind is able to reason properly.

At the end of the day, we know that Klitschko never won again after he lost to Fury. We know that he struggled with Jennings just before, who never went on to get a single good win. In fact, did you know that Fury has never beaten a single opponent who went on to beat a Ring rated contender after he beat them?

Canelo has a huge number of wins over people proven at the highest level, who went on to win at the highest level after he beat them. Fury doesn't even have one.

fencik45 · Apr 16, 2023

Sooncreate3 said: ↑

In my opinion, I do see fighters like Lomachenko, Inoue, and Ioka in a similar level as they have similar longevity and level of opposition (all these fighters are elite class fighters). So for them, they can be interchangeable (Ioka, imo, has a pretty deep resume if you explore into it more like look at the things he did at 105).

In regards to why I ranked Fury over Canelo (which is also very close), look at the best fighters they fought. Let's look at the best fighters they have a win over on paper. On paper, Fury's best win was Wladmir Klitschko (I know everyone says he is 39 yrs old but the guy still maintained a strong win streak (~18 title defenses) and beat Jennings decisively at the time and was like around Top 5 or 6 P4P; also everyone seems to agree that Klitschko deserves his place in the HOF and is like Top 15-20 HW). For Canelo, his best win on paper was GGG (had like 10+ title defenses at MW and was considered like Top 3 P4P at the time in the first fight; usually considered either borderline HOF or future HOF based on your preferences). If you actually watched the fights, Canelo looked terrible against Golovkin in the first 2 fights (better in the 2nd fight but there's a good argument that GGG edged him) and GGG was consistently outlanding him and beating him to punches. Meanwhile, Fury made Klitschko look like a fool and was clowning around the whole fight, never going past first gear. There's a good argument that Fury dominated Klitschko and Wilder well (except 3rd fight with Wilder where he struggled more than usual).

But hey, this is just my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. That's what makes this forum interesting.
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Klitschko was 4 months short of 40, had looked terrible his previous fight, yet Fury hadn't the balls to do anything but make faces from out of range. Then he threw his prime away ducking the rematch ( not to mention the failed peds test). Your opinion is that of a Fury fanboy.

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