Rank The Title Reigns

Seamus
Re: Rank The Title Reigns
my 2 cent...

Ali
Lewis
Louis
Marciano
Jeffries
Foreman
Johnson
Dempsey

Seamus, do your own list!
Like all good plagiarists I note you made one alteration.

BTW the title said "Reign" so I exclude title challenges but included title-losing opponents.

 

Tucker? Golota? McCall?

hardly

lewis' had the most forgettable reign in history. his comp was decent but that's all. about the only thing I remember were his bouts with what's his name, the guy who knocked him out and was knocked out in the return match

that's how forgettable his opponents were

now had it been DEMPSEY in there with the control conscious Lewis, we'd be seeing another KO BY on his record

Tyson' comp too was weak. So was Holmes'

 

Wonder who that could be?!
PS Be delighted to scan it.

 

1. Louis-No explanation necessary. Just too busy and beat almost everybody outside of the World War II players like Bivins.

2. Ali-70s and 60s reign combined? Defended the title against almost every contender he possibly could in the time frames he ruled.

3. Marciano-Brief reign but made two defenses a year against fighters that could be argued as the top one or two contender.

4. Jeffries-Busy and dominant reign against what appear to be the top names of his era, the best I can tell.

5. Lewis-I only recognize him after the Holyfield fights: Grant, Botha, and Tua are solid at best before unforunately trading the belt with Rahman. Tyson fight was good for the name and Vitali was a strong pick up in his second reign, though he refused to meet his #1 contender Chris Byrd.

6. Foreman-Norton was a great defense before dropping the belt back to Ali. His second reign was irrelevant and he lost recognition as the HW King rather quickly as he fought nobodies while Tyson started unifying titles again.

Dempsey and Johnson-Beat some ok guys but both seemed to miss their major contenders for whatever the reason.

 

You have extensive footage of the likes of Brennan Gibbons, and Miske?

 

I don't know, Tucker missed most of his actual prime due to drug and management problems. He's off the map for two years following Tyson. So all we really have to judge him on is the loss to Tyson and come from behind stoppage against Douglas, which doesn't tell us much.

During his comeback, we have him scrapping by Norris and McCall before getting beaten up by Lewis.

I guess if your a glass half full guy, you could say he only lost to the absolute elite when he was recognized as a contender, but that's all there is to him really. Hard guy to get a proper guage on, he was certainly durable and had decent power, certainly a contender but maybe misleading to paint him as a guy that would only lose to the super elite if he mixed it up more.

 

That's right. Tucker from 93' isn't the Tucker of 87' because of 3 year layoff and drugs.

He was closer to 95' version when Seldon stopped him on cuts.

 

Miske must have had a swift descent to "death's door " as he ko'd Lee Anderson just two months before he challenged Dempsey. Five months later he went 10 rds to beat Lee Anderson, he then went undefeated in 24 fights over a 3 year span before finally succumbing, that's a long time to be "knocking on heavens door ". Carpentier was not a monster at heavyweight, but he had beaten Billy Wells twice by ko, beaten Gun Boat Smith for the White Heavyweight title , lost a disputed decision to Jeannette,[past his prime , but Carpentier was only 20], and held the European heavyweight title for 8years,in his previous contest he had ko'd Battling Levinsky for the world LhvY title.
Completely coddled? He was fighting Klaus and Papke when he was a teenager.
Possibly ,Carpentier was not as bad as the result against Dempsey suggests, just possibly Dempsey was a bit better than you give him credit for?

 

I have to agree with this, Dempsey was better than he gets on here and his opponents were just about as good as Johnson's ...I think anyone of them would beat Jose Roman (Foreman's defense)

 

Does it go that much against the grain?

 

Or to put it another way, Tucker's best wins were over a 33 years old McCall, and Buster Douglas who was winning comfortably until he went into his shell and gave up.