Rank them 1-4 p4p right now: JMM, Martinez, Wladimir and Ward

I have a feeling it wont be in Oakland. After the Kessler fight he had Green and Bika, and neither of those fights would sell outside Oakland, but the Abraham one will.

 

You just resorted to Ward as head-butting hometown fraud. I mean, what's more to discuss. I said Wlad has accomplished more which you felt the need to repeat. I just think skills/technical ability wise Ward is superior. What do you think of Hopkins praise of him? Or is he just a cheating fraud American hype job too?

That's fair enough. I don't care where the fight is Ward should win, although I would be a little weary if it was in Germany. Talk about hometown advantages... body-punching is illegal against AA there. So you agree, and if it happens to be somewhere else in America outside of Oakland or somewhere outside of Germany in Europe you can't scream robbery or what not. I won't either.

I especially like how you said he would murder him with such conviction but now you're taking the underdog to rid ESB. I must remind you I'm 1-0 in lifetime ban bets here. Got rid of a Klit fan... I'm sure he came back.

 

I agree. If Ward wins the Super 6 he'd be between 5-10 on my list.

 

Tyson in the late 80's was definitely better than Hearns, Hagler, and Leonard on a P4P level. He was incredibly dominant, and beating up bigger guys. These three were just on the decline at that point. I don't know how else they can compare... Tyson was probably even faster than Hagler at that point.

 

In defense on Andre Ward he beat Kessler very convincingly, practically a shutout, and Mikkel is no joke himself. Just saying..............

 

Brown Charlie strikes again! Good stuff..............you're a comedian right?

 

this is the only post you need ever read about the career of bernard hopkins. the following is irrefutable scientific fact :deal



here is bernard hopkins best 6 wins broken down, take away the smoke and mirrors, the hbo and ring magzaine brainwashing and this is what your left with


trinidad
prime weight = welterweight (147)
fought hopkins at middleweight (159)
trinidads record at middleweight or above from hopkins onwards = 2 wins / 3 defeats

winky wright
prime weight - light middleweight (154)
fought hopkins at - 170 lbs
in 57 fights, the hopkins fight was the only fight that wright had weighed over 160 lbs (a full 10lbs difference) :rofl

de la hoya
prime weight - welterweight (147lbs)
fought hopkins at - middleweight (160lbs)
de la hoya only fought twice in his career at middleweight out of 45 fights -1 win / 1 loss - the win was a very debatable decision over eurobum felix sturm

pavlik
prime weight - middleweight (160 lbs)
fought hopkins at - 170 lbs
in 34 fights pavlik had only fought 2 minnions at the beginning of his career at 169. all pavliks fights since hopkins have been at the 160 limit.

tarver
prime weight 175
great 2 weight jump from hopkins and his best win despite tarver being a b-level fighter and going 3 wins / 3 losses from hopkins onwards.

johnson
prime weight -super mid / light heavy (162 to 175)
fought hopkins at - middleweight (160)
johnsons record at 160 + from hopkins onwards - 19 wins / 14 defeats / 2 draws
the defeats have come against people of the level of ottke, woods, shieka, gonzales, harmon, branco, vanderpool, Kiwanuka, sosa :rofl






then throw in hopkins 4 defeats to the only top class fighters he ever fought at a fair weight (jones, calzaghe, and taylor twice) and you get a true reflection of the career of bernard hopkins :deal

 

I only read the first couple of lines before I realized it was a windup. A pathetic attempt to discredit a great fighter.

Wlad has dominated & barely lost a round, gettting the KO just about every defense. All while almost getting us a complete unification of the Heavyweight title. Anyone who's around boxing recognizes Wlad's achievements, regardless of their opinion of the state of the division. It didn't hurt Louis or Holmes................or countless others.

 

Klitschko has the best jab since Holmes and a wicked left hook off that jab & a right hand any boxer would die for.

 

Marquez but he cant really go any higher at his age imo.

The rest have more years ahead.

 

what, you think that it has nothing to do with ward being 7 stone lighter, the fact that he is technically superior , we are talking p4p pussywipe :rofl

so you dont think that abraham will be a massive underdog against ward

you think its unreasonable of me to take on a huge underdog bet and then provide a stipulation that 'as long has it doesn't take place in joakland'

either put up or shut up favourite backing tranny queen :deal

 

Wlad might have the greatest jab in HW division history. And no, I'm not kidding. That doesn't mean that doesn't cover up well for his deficiencies.

The rest of those punches boxing fans would die to see more of.

 

So you're comparing Tyson's early list of opponents with that of Sugar Ray Leonard?

Puff, puff, pass dude :rasta

What wins does Tyson have that compare with Hagler, Hearns, Duran & Benitez?

 

I already put up you momo. I know you're a troll anyway, I'm just amusing you.

No, AA will be the underdog. What's amusing is saying he will crush Ward and then act like you're doing yourself the favor for taking the huge underdog/risk. Surely not much of a risk if you think he will crush him regardless of odds.

And your the one that picked AA to begin with. I just made the proposal... so how can I am not agreeing?