Rank them: Calzaghe, Jones, Hopkins, Toney

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  1. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

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    lol no use even speaking with you

    Thank you

    I suppose that i feel like Hopkins the last couple years has become really overrated, especially his resume. Seeing people say **** like "he's top 3 middleweight all time" bugs me, i admit.

    Seriously

    Trinidad - 147

    Winky - 170 & haden't fought for over a year

    Tarver - coming down from 220 and is overrated himself

    Pavlik - This is the 1 fight i give Hopkins credit for in regards to not cherrypicking. The Bronchitis and elbow injury Hopkins obviously has no way of knowing would happen so as far as he knew he was going up against a young, tough, undefeated middleweight champ.

    Blown up Hoya - lol

    Smoke & mirrors for the most part, in my opinion.

    VS

    Sosa
    Nunn
    Johnson
    Mccallum X 3
    Barkley
    Littles
    Williams
    Jirov
    Holyfield
    Ruiz
    Guinn
    Rahman
    Peter
    Oquendo

    Toney is undiscipline, can be lazy etc but in terms of talent and in a h2h VS B-Hop, both in their prime, i'd take Toney 10 times out of 10

    His resume is a great deal better even with all the years he took off and years spent not taking **** serious.

    His superior resume in part is due to his heart/balls. He has more than Jones & Hopkins combined.

    I can find his **** talk a bit much sometimes, sometimes it's pretty funny but "his i'll fight anytime, anywhere, anybody" attitude and the fact that he's dead serious about it deserves respect, especially in this day in age where people like Floyd, Hopkins, Jones etc are content building their "legacy" cherrypicking ****.
    That's why i like Toney.
     
  2. Thread Stealer

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    Trinidad had annihliated a top 3 MW in Joppy, making him a 3-1 favorite over Hopkins. I can see why people don't think much of the Hopkins win over DLH (I don't really rate it high either), but unlike DLH, Tito had proven himself at MW.

    Wright had fought 7 months before losing to Hopkins, but I agree in part about the weight. Both the Wright and Pavlik bouts were @ 170. In fact, because of the weight, I think you can be more critical about the Pavlik fight then the Tarver fight. Hopkins was the one going from 160 to 175 when he beat Tarver.
     
  3. Thread Stealer

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    I don't think so, because Toney couldn't make the weight for that long. Hopkins made the weight for a long time because he's disciplined, he trains hard and watches his diet.

    Toney had weight problems, he said he was around 200 lbs. when he played football in high school, so it's hard to picture him staying at 160 for that long. He apparently took dieuretics to make 160 for the Tiberi fight, in which he looked awful.

    He looked good in some of the fights above 160, against Thomas and then the Barkley fight, and I remember him saying there was no way he'd go back to middleweight.
     
  4. keith

    keith ESB OG Full Member

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    1. Jones
    2. hopkins
    3. toney
    4. Calzaghe.


    This was actually very easy.



    Keith
     
  5. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

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    Just under 9 months dec 2 - july 21, under a year though you're right.
     
  6. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jones
    Toney
    Hopkins
    Calzaghe
     
  7. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jones- Hopkins
    Toney
    Calzaghe
     
  8. stuistylee

    stuistylee j.c.chavez superstar Full Member

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  9. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is this supposed to be taken seriously? One guy doesnt even belong on the list, let alone on top. Come on, and Toney deserves his due...... how many wins? how many big names on his resume?......and he's 4th?
     
  10. lolb

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    Jones
    Hopkins
    Toney
    Calzaghe
     
  11. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    H2h:
    Jones
    Hopkins
    Calzaghe
    Toney

    Resumewise:
    Hopkins
    Jones
    Calzaghe
    Toney
     
  12. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    This seems about right.
     
  13. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Wake up & smell the ****.

    Stop being biased, if Calzaghe had lost before, you guys would give him more credit, its because he has a 0 you hold it against him, to say he would get crushed by any of those men shows either your bias or stupidity... which one ?

    YOU decide ;)
     
  14. BIG WORM

    BIG WORM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who had the best technical style in there primes:

    Hopkins
    Toney
    Calzaghe

    Who had the ability to win more fights:

    Calzaghe
    Hopkins
    Toney

    WHo's style do i think is the classiest and easiest to watch out of all 3:

    James Toney
    Calzaghe
    Hopkins
     
  15. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jones
    Toney
    Hopkins
    Calzaghe