Rank these 10 Mexican ATGs

I´d rate Morales over Canto......especially because of his win over Pacquiao......

Lopez is hard to rate...it depends on your criteria....

1-Chavez
2-Sanchez
3-Olivares

 

Not sure about footage, but he'd rank especially highly as a Mexican fighter given his dominance over a golden era of Mexican boxing, even if he had a relatively short prime.

Got the better of fellow highly rated Mexicans Baby Arizmendi, Juan Zurita, Kid Azteca, and Joe Conde while also beating the likes of young Henry Armstrong, Midget Wolgast, Newsboy Brown, Freddie Miller, Speedy Dado, and Young Tommy, many of them in series'. Never lost to anything outside of a top fighter in that prime (roughly '33 to '36), and when he did he usually got revenge.

Went off the rails a bit afterwards, but then he'd already had one hell of a career. Footage would no doubt be a nice addition, but as it stands he's got one of the most stacked resumes of any Mexican fighter, if not the most. That's really something to pull off in that span of time. It's no wonder his prime didn't last especially long.

 

Damn.

 

Where the hell is Juan Manuel Marquez? He certainly should rank over Barrera and Morales in this era in terms of resume, longevity, performances and variety of styles proven against.

Overall Sanchez, Chavez and Marquez probably make up my top 3. Although Ricardo Lopez and Canto maybe the most skilled. Saldivar and Olivares supposedly had great careers but to me in terms of ability and performances I don't rate them as highly as the others I've mentioned

 

Same opinion.

[/QUOTE]Overall Sanchez, Chavez and Marquez probably make up my top 3. Although Ricardo Lopez and Canto maybe the most skilled. Saldivar and Olivares supposedly had great careers but to me in terms of ability and performances I don't rate them as highly as the others I've mentioned[/QUOTE]

Olivares looked impressive in his short peak though.

 

Chavez has to be number one. But, how close? About three seconds!

My top Mexicans:

10 Erik Morales
9 Vicente Saldivar
8 Lupe Pintor
7 Salvador Sanchez
6 Marco Antonio Barrera
5 Jose Napoles (Adopted Mexico as his own country; Cuban by birth)
4 Ricardo Lopez
3 Ruben Olivares
2 Carlos Zarate
1 Julio Cesar Chavez

Mentions to: Humberto Gonzales, Miguel Canto, Rodolfo Martinez, Alfonso Zamora, Daniel Zaragoza, Joe Rivers, Baby Arizmendi, Chalky Wright, Manuel Medina, Rafael Limon, Jose Luis Ramirez and Jose Luis Castillo.

 

I'll bet that Saldivar gets shafted even more the longer this thread goes on. Sorry, but Lopez, Pintor and Marquez over him my hairy white arse. There's nothing to say that Barrera, Zarate and Sanchez definitely belong above him either for that matter.

 

Cough, cough... Oh we are talking about Saldivar... choke, choke!

Could of, should of, didn't. And yet kudos, was that good, I still have got him #9 in all-time Mexican list.

 

:huh

 

Better's Winstone to show he really is top notch, and promptly quits before his 25th birthday...

 

He peaked early like many smaller fighters- pre comfy post mid90s schedule era-and got a helluva lot done in a small time frame.It wasn't just Winstone he beat.

He's going to suffer longevity wise if you compare him to some of the absolute top-tier greats but among his own countrymen it's not a major issue.Most don't have huge stacked records and many took a lot longer to compile a similar amount of quality wins, if they got there at all.

You make it out like he's Terry Marsh or something.

 

Saldivar's a guaranteed top 5 all time. I've got him at #3.