Rank these 10 Mexican ATGs

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  1. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    GP is plastered. :lol:
     
  2. Garrus

    Garrus Big Boss 1935-2014 Full Member

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    :hat

    who isnt
     
  3. TAC602

    TAC602 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is a good, fair post IMO.

    I think Sanchez is a beneficiary of having a higher quality, further extended film anthology - and in color - to be honest. I think every ATG that did their work from the 70s on has this slight advantage in some fans minds. It may be honestly subconscious, but it plays a role. These are truly great fighters, and it's so god damned convenient.

    As far as Sanchez's resume, yes, I think Gomez and Lopez (x2) are better top of the lines sans Ramos, but Saldivar obviously has an advantage where depth is concerned.
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Im no that bad, still speaking sense

    when i start saying lopez number 1 you kne im bad, or im nominating shoji oguma in this thread
     
  5. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Saldivar retired after he pretty much cleared out the enitre Featherweight division...Which was a very stacked division at that, and then came back from retirement and beat very excellent fighters in Legra and Famechon.

    Anybody who doesnt have Saldivar in the top 5 ATG Mexican list has issues.
     
  6. SenorRamirez

    SenorRamirez Active Member Full Member

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    Marry Christmas 2 all my Mexicans and Latinos ♥
     
  7. prime

    prime BOX! Writing Champion Full Member

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    1. Julio César Chávez
    2. Salvador Sánchez
    3. Marco Antonio Barrera
    4. Erik Morales
    5. Carlos Zárate
    6. Ricardo López
    7. Miguel Canto
    8. Rubén Olivares
    9. Vicente Saldívar
    10. Kid Azteca

    What an extraordinary group of fighters! What an extraordinary boxing heritage that is Mexico's!

    These are very different fighters from different eras; the first nine proved they were the best in the world on an undeniably consistent basis, although Olivares was great in spite of himself.

    Kid Azteca's victories over powerhouse Ceferino García rightfully place him in this company.
     
  8. kikibalt

    kikibalt Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There should be room somewhere in somebody's list for the great Enrique Bolanos, who fought in a very tough era. Had it not been for the super-great Ike Williams, Bolanos would had been lightweight champion.
     
  9. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

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    Lopez over Canto, Olivares and Saldivar is laughable.
     
  10. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm gonna start using the phrase "Y'all musta forgot!" about Saldivar.
     
  11. kikibalt

    kikibalt Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It is!
     
  12. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    I take it this is the same kikibalt that used to post on CBZ and posts over at boxrec?..i.e the baltazar brothers dad.

    Welcome to the forum
    :D
     
  13. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That presumes that at some point they knew.
     
  14. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I actually was thinking the same thing even as I made my post.:lol:
     
  15. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing

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    Saldivar is my solid number 4....