Rank these 3 Heavyweights: Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield?

And Tyson and Holyfield got flattened/outboxed in their prime by mid-levelers like Douglas and Moorer.

 

Holyfield-Moorer 1 was very close, could have gone either way. Holyfield was already past his best and apparently injured .

 

:thumbsup MCCall And Rahman would probs KTFO Douglas And Moorer. :deal

Grade C journey-man Douglas DESTROYED Best/Prime tyson +
Old Holyfeild DESTROYED Prime Tyson =
they DESTROYED teh myth Tyson is top-5 H2H. :deal

Lennox were Only 50% of his Best/Prime VS MCCall 1 And ONly 60% of his Best/Prime VS Rahman 1 - BUT he was Prime in teh rematches AND he DESTROYED them. :deal
Tyson were 100% of his Best/Prime VS Douglas!!

 

Why was Lewis only 60% of his prime against Rahman 1 ?

And how did he suddenly become 100% prime again for the rematch, at 36 years old too ?

 

Lennox Only trained for 2 weeks cos he filming OCean's 11 movie And ppl need 8 weeks to get used to v.high mountain altitude.

Lennox was 100% Prime for teh rematch 7 month later cos he train v.hard And was v.motivated to get His World Title back straight-away so he could defend it against Tyson for $30mill. :deal

Do yoy agreed MCCall And Rahman would KTFO Douglas ANd Moorer??
+ that tyson 100% his Best/Prime VS Douglas And 95% his Best/Prime VS Holyfeild???

 

So how do you explain Holyfield getting outboxed off Moorer

Thats outboxed not a fluke lucky punch..

 

Holyfeild past-prime And had bad HEART-problems VS Moorer And he still won on my Score-cards by 1 point.

BUT - teh fluke 1-in-a-million lucky punch from Rahman probs KTFO anyone except Old Foreman IMO. :thumbsup

 

Holyfields fight was razor close. Noone in the arena thought Moorer won except Moorer.

Yes Tyson got flattened once, not twice. Douglas had more talent in his big toe, than Hasim Rahman, and thats not saying much.

 

Was he though? The fight was very close, a Holyfield win would have raised no outrage, and Holyfield was supposedly injured. Eithe way Moorer was a talented fighter. Mcall and Rahman were not.

 

Your making excuses for Lewis. He lost twice, pre Steward, not training whatever you want to call it. Well Tyson didnt train for Douglas, and went to prison for three years. Excuses aside, based on what they actually did in their careers, Tyson is over Lewis in my mind. He beat a better group of fighters and he did it in far more dominating fashion.
What is Lewis best win???? Ruddock after getting brutalized by Tyson twice.
Maybe Vitali, but he was losing that fight. Tua? I cant really think of a super special win for Lewis. Enlighten me...

 

And bandwidth. Log off and throw your computer in the lake. :good

 

I rank Lewis higher, he did what Tyson should have done if he didnt mess up his career. He ruled the division and avenged all his losses. He has 2 fluke KO losses but he avenged them. He beat every man put in front of him and retired successfully.

Tyson ranks higher than Holy but lower than Lennox because he also dominated the division and ruled it with an Iron fist, he then proceed to fire his trainers for no good reason and then lost to people who shouldnt have. Also going to prison didnt help, however he did win 2 belts after coming out. This is where Lennox and Tyson differ. Tyson was an absolute unbeatable beast in his prime which was while he was younger, then he fired everyone and it was all downhill and then the fluke loss to Douglas. Lennox did the opposite, he had the fluke loss and then hired a better trainer, stepped his game up and improved as he got older.

I rank Holyfield 3rd because i believe both Tyson and Lewis would beat him if they all fought at their primes. He blew hot and cold and lost too many times, he was too inconsistent and wasnt really dominating, which is what great champions do. For example, Louis, Marciano, Holmes and yes the Klitchkos.

 

Yeah but Holyfield was small and fought and beat the better competition. That has to be taken into consideration. Had Holyfield been losing to the likes of Rahman or Mcall, it would be different, but he was losing to top notch fighters. Its kind of like the situation with Vitali. Hes dominating and ruling the division with an iron fist, but if he had to deal with a prime Bowe or Lewis, he would come off as inconsistent just like Holyfield.

 

Well, those are the same type of excuses people use for Tyson losing to Douglas, "he didn't train", "he wasn't focussed".
Maybe Lewis wasn't properly prepared but it was his own fault and he was still in his prime or close to it.

Well, Douglas BEAT McCall, so no I don't think McCall would KTFO of him.
I think Douglas would probably outbox Rahman too.

Tyson was very near prime for Douglas.
He was about 70 % for Holyfield, but Holyfield was even further gone.