wayne mcculloch [destroyed] michael brodie[destroyed] tom boom boom johnson[destroyed] tracey harris paterson[destroyed]
come on pal. You need to pick fighters who aren't passed their sell by if your going to help your cause.
How can you put Laing above Jones when he lost to him twice as for Piper above Woods can I have some of what you are smoking.
There is no reasoning or cause for Harrison being above Graham. It's called a lost cause. Did Harrison even beat anybody as good as Kalule legitimately? His competition is B grade, and he struggled with his best opponents. Put him against A+ elites of the standard of Kalambay and McCallum and he'd have been ripped apart. Competitive losses to truly great fighters can tell you a lot more than winning a world title against lower class opposition. Not that it helps his resume any, it just shows the calibre of fighter he was.
Jones beat Laing twice and also challenged three times for the world title (and probably won one of them) whereas Laing didn't, with the Duran aside, make it to that level. No doubt that Laing was more talented than Jones but that can't cancel out the 2 KOs and the fact Jones "made" it to a higher level when ranking the two against each other.
Robin Reid was superior to Harrison also. He had a more varied game. He won the WBC Title. He beat Vasquez, and while his record does not look impressive on the face of it since he fought well past prime, he fought real tough competition and had wins over Winky and Castillejo. He beat Sven Ottke. He pushed Calzaghe as close as anybody has. Robin Reid was inconsistent but at his best was superior to Harrison, and achieved more in winning the WBC title and fighting the two best super middles of his era and fairing well.
sorry i havent watched much of graham but Harrison was highly regarded at his weight and importantly a world champ but grahams wins are top class maybe not sure i say eve i think in his division Harrison ranks higher i menat to write and you aswell i actually forgot about you sorry
Graham (the best fighter of them all. Didn't achieve as much as others in the list, but if he was fighting in their era, he would have done. If you haven't seen it, do yourself a favour and watch Graham vs McCullum on youtube.) Colin Jones - Good. Very good. Not old enough to know his career as well as I'd like to. Laing - most talented of them all. Record simply doesn't reflect it though - an SD in a 10 round fight over Duran doesn't make a career. He looked BRILLIANT against the better fighters he didn't lose against. But he was far, far too inconsistent. Woodhall - I always thought he was a limited fighter. But looking back, he beat two high-class opponents that beat Robin Reid. His career was quite short, but quality was there. Clinton Woods - very solid wins. Very solid fighter. Loses against the very best - and his best performances don't match up to Graham's, Jones' or Laing's. Reid - very good fighter, beat some good opponents. His best wasn't as good as Jones' best, or Laing's - and he took some defeats against fighters he probably shouldn't have done) Scott Harrison - very good fighter, was on upward curve when lost his way. Beat better fighters than Reid but on balance, his opposition wasn't that good. Funnily enough, if he had kept up the improvement/resume he was building BEFORE he won the WBO title, he could one of the greatest ever). Alex Arthur - Hasn't beaten much above domestic class, the reason he's ranked this high is because our domestic 130/135lb scene is pretty good. Enzo Mac - Has beaten a bunch of domestic fighters, poor fighters with pretty records and over-the-hill fighters. Had limitations exposed by Olafabi. When punch power can't do the job, he's in deep ****. Gavin Rees - His best win is better than Arthur's (and perhaps even Harrison's). But the fact is he has beat NO-ONE apart from M'Baye, and got taken apart by Kotelnik. You have to label the M'Baye win a fluke. Nicky Piper - I like Piper. He's tough as hell and always can give a good fight against top opposition. But the sad fact is he never actually beat anyone. Ever. EVER. And losing to Crawford Ashley, well....
All 4 of them were past their prime. Far, far past their prime in fact. Brodie was wrecked by Chi, McCullough was an war-weary fighting above his weight class - and as for Johnson and Paterson...
He knocked out Bruce Scott, Danny Juma (who drew with Robin Reid), Noel Magee and John Keeton. He drew with Maurice Core..... To say he never beat anyone is ridiculous. And sowhat h lost to Crawford Ashley? So did Carl Thompson, Mohammed Siluvangi, Monty Wright, Robert Dominguez, Hunter Clay and a host of other decent domestic fighters.
You say that as if those fighters are even European class, let alone World Class... And are you actually extolling the virtues of a fighter that had a record of 2-5-1 when Piper beat him (and never won more than 2 fights in his career). Because that's pretty.....actually, how would you put it?