Rank these currently active ATGs: Canelo, Chocolatito, Usyk, Donaire

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  1. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Get a grip, or a clue.

    We can argue all day on who's better PFP and H2H-wise but Canelo's resume, accomplishments and longevity crap on anything Usyk has done so far.
     
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  2. MarvelousMarvinGolovkin

    MarvelousMarvinGolovkin Kownackis belly button lint Full Member

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    Delete your account
    Your comment to like ratio says it all
     
  3. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Had you created your account in this forum before yesterday morning, you would know that when the likes were introduced the number of total comments were not reseted.

    ElCyclon having this number of likes and this number of comments, what actually means is that he already was a hardcore boxing fan when you still were pissing on your dippers. Hence, you would do very well shutting the **** up.
     
  4. MarvelousMarvinGolovkin

    MarvelousMarvinGolovkin Kownackis belly button lint Full Member

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    Read the first 3 words and didn't read the rest
    you seem very mad though
    must be his burner account
     
  5. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    good for you
     
  6. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yup. I have Usyk higher on the current PFP list but in terms of ATG Chocolatito is above Usyk.
     
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  7. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Canelo
    Choco
    Usyk
    Only reason you might have usyk up is he went to heavyweight
     
  8. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I was just looking up stats from compubox. Here's their connect percentage minus their opponent connect percentage.
    http://beta.compuboxdata.com/categorical-leaders
    Dmitry Bivol 44.8-14.6= 30.2
    Vasyl Lomachenko 47.6-18.2= 29.4
    Erislandy Lara 45.4-18.8= 26.6
    Terence Crawford 47.5-21.2= 26.3
    Saul Alvarez 47.1-23.3= 23.8
    Errol Spence 46.4-22.7= 23.7
    Naoya Inoue 44.5-21.1= 23.4
    Guillermo Rigondeaux 43.4-20.5= 22.9
    Kazuto Ioka 41.8-20.5= 21.3
    Oleksandr Usyk 42.5-22.9= 19.6
    Manny Pacquioa 43.5-25= 18.5
    Roman Gonzalez 41.8-24.5= 17.3
    Juan Francisco Estrada 37.5-20.2= 17.3
    Gennady Golovkin 44-27.3= 16.7
    Nonito Donaire 35.8-24.1= 11.7
    Tyson Fury 38.9-27.5= 11.4
     
  9. boxfap

    boxfap USA! USA! USA!

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    By current achievements
    1) Canelo
    2) Usyk
    3) Chocolatito

    By the time they retire it will be
    1) Usyk
    2) Canelo
    3) Chocolatito
     
  10. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Donaire is an interesting one because he's picked up some losses after Rigo popped his bubble but still managed to bounce back time after time. 4 weight division champ, and also nigh unbeatable at FW, SFW, and BW before moving up to SBW. Held titles in 3 separate decades and also became the oldest BW champ. That's really damn impressive and its ATG material, I'd even say he might at least have an argument to squeeze in between but I also wouldn't argue with him being 4th as well.
     
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  11. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    #1 Usyk.. look what he's done in under 20 fights.. and to have his inactivity yet to still do what he does is awesome

    Alvaroid/Chocolatito about even .. both have two losses* to one guy

    Donaire not far behind .. & like Alvarez got taken apart by a superior boxer Rigo.. Floyd..

    All great fighters but Alvarez is more of a diva & a beneficiary of huge privilege within the sport whereas those guys less so and do it more the hard way

    Canelo's unification is undoubtedly the weakest in history as well.

    Josh Taylor should be in this discussion too.
     
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  12. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Fury, Pavlik, Josh Taylor & Kovalev come close too .. I believe at their best they would stack up in any era.
     
  13. Flo_Raiden

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  14. Surrix

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    yeah, cos he is an undisputed in his division.
     
  15. JSpizz

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    Is Gonzalez Estrada 3 confirmed?