How do you rate these 10 European heavyweights? In no particular order. Tommy Farr Joe Bugner Frank Bruno Wlad Klitschko Vitali Klitschko Ingemar Johansson Joshua Max Schmeling Henry Cooper Lennox Lewis ????
I wanted a nice, round number, so I added Anthony Joshua so it ended up as ten. #10. Tommy Farr #09. Frank Bruno #08. Henry Cooper #07. Joe Bugner #06. Anthony Joshua #05. Ingo Johansson #04. Max Schmeling #03. Vitali Klitschko #02. Wladimir Klitschko #01. Lennox Lewis
1 Lennox Lewis 2 Vladimer Klitschko 3 Vitali Klitschko 4 Anthony Joshua 5 Max Schmeling 6 Frank Bruno 7 Ingo Johansson 8 Joe Bugner 9 Tommy Farr 10 Henry Cooper
1. Lennox Lewis 2. Wladamir Klitschko 3. Max Schmeling 4. Vitally Klitschko 5. Ingemar Johansen 6. Anthony Joshua (I will move him up if he gets more good wins) 7. Tommy Farr 8. Joe Bugner 9. Frank Bruno 10. Henry Cooper
That looks bang on to me except for Cooper. Cooper was ranked in the top ten for six years, and the top five for three. Bugner, for example, was in the top ten for seven or eight months between beating Ellis and losing to Ali the second time. I think. Your thought?
Max surely spits the Klitsckos? Or just overwhelmed by the monster mash Vitali would probably put on Max?
But I like where you put Farr. Tommy can get forgotten at times, when discussing the euro heavyweights. Going the distance with A prime Louis alone gives him max respect!
Yeah, pretty much mate. Although now I'm relooking, there's some inconsistencies in that list coz I'd have aj at 4 purely on a head to head basis, but Max at 3 on a'greatness one. I think having Joshua above Ingo in both categories is fair, so I don't agree with that one either. Swap Joshua with Into and then Max with Vitali and you'd have my greatness list Then swap Max and Josh from that top five and you'd have my H2H list But I dunno man I'm ****ing swaying
When I look at their career accomplishments, Max achieved less than Wlad, but more than Vitally. I would make both observations with confidence. So yes Max splits the Klitschkos. That is not a problem, because they always avenge each others setbacks.
No Karl Mildenberger? He defeated some American imports, gave a peak Muhammad Ali a rough time in the early going on Sept 10 1966, in Frankfurt, Germany, before TKO 12, in favor of Ali.