Rank these fighters in order - Arguello, Lewis, Hearns, DLH.

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  1. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You could possibly argue for 30 fighters better than Hearns, but at some point the picks would become debatable.
     
  2. Sister Sledge

    Sister Sledge Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hearns
    Arguello
    ODLH
    Lewis

    Hearns was almost unbeatable in his prime. Even though his chin was suspect, his sheer talent and unfathomable power overcame his one shotcoming. At his best, there are only two fighters I can think of who are capable of beating him
    Arguello was cut in the same mold as Hearns, just not as fast, athletic or explosive. Even so, his will-power and punching power broke other fighters down. He was a slow starter, and this got him in trouble early in some fights, though.
    Oscar is very underrated. Most of the time, he is judged strictly by what he did at 147, but he was unbeatable at the lower weights. The guy cleaned out 130 and 135, and knocked out lots of guys who never touched the canvas before. I would actually pick Oscar to knock AA out at 135, based on the fact that Oscar was so explosive early and AA was a slow starter. 147 was not Oscars' best weight, but he stayed at this weight most of his career. Even so, he still have power and became more of a complete fighter at this weight. Had he gotten the nods over Trinidad and the second Mosely fight, I would rank him above AA.
    Lewis did his thing and beat the best that was available. His style wasn't always the most fun to watch, but he won. His lack of stamina puts him below the rest.
     
  3. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Addie, I violently disagree with you on ODLH so much I'm not going to bother with it tainting this piece of awesomeness you've concocted:

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  4. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Nice post. I thought the same about Oscar. Had he been able to stay at 135 he would have knocked everyone out. His fights at lightweight usually went 2 rounds or 3. Then at 140 he was still knocking guys out but it was a little harder. By 147 pounds he was going the distance and struggling more. I wonder what his ranking would be if he stayed at 140 his whole career. He might not have fought Tito and Hopkins and Mosley, so he would have had more great wins against mediocre guys, but not beaten the top competition. So in reality who knows what is better. Is being dominant and not fighting top fighters better or is fighting top fighters and not being as dominant best? Oscar is still a top 40 ATG regardless. I am not sure if staying at 140 gets him higher.
     
  5. WhataRock

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    Oscar's level of opposition was defintely better once he got to 147 though...and only 3 guys went the rounds with him.
    Quartey he came pretty close to stopping....Camacho he was never going to stop, solid chin and damn hard to pin down...And I mean it was Sweet Pea.

    He still had power and some notable stoppages.

    He didnt knock out anyone at 140 really...Chavez he stopped on a cut and he bounced shots off MAG all night and couldnt get him out of there.

    Realistically he was never going to be able to stay down at lightweight for very long...His career is about as good as he could hope for, its a stellar resume.
     
  6. Sister Sledge

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    JJ Leija and Paez were guys who could really soak up punishment, and they only lasted 2 rounds with Oscar. He destroyed Genaro Hernandez' nose and made him quit. The guy was a very hard puncher at 135. His speed was also superb at 135. Definately underrated.
     
  7. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good Excellent Post, I agree with everything you said.
     
  8. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He blew out durable Vetran Darryl Tyson in 2 rounds.
     
  9. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Arguello
    Hearns
    Lewis
    DeLaHoya
     
  10. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah forgot about him..

    But thats getting sidetracked from the point of the post...Which is that De la Hoya's power came up with him to 147. Im not sure what MAG is getting at in saying he was struggling to knock out guys at 147, when only 3 fighters when the rounds with him.
     
  11. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good Agreed and none of those guys were ever kod not then and not even since.

    Unless you count Whittaker getting injured against Borquez.
     
  12. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I see one of my old threads have been bumped.... my opinion is still the same.....

    Hearns
    Arguello
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    DLH
    Lewis
     
  13. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Camacho
    Quartey
    Whitaker
    Trinidad
    Mosely

    Unless of course you meant men that Oscar BEAT at 147 :good
     
  14. anarci

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    And Trinidad is the only one to have ever been stopped of those 5. All of them are HOF or future HOFs.
     
  15. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Most certainly was Billy boy.