Rank these fighters: Marciano, Finito, Calzaghe, Ward, Mayweather, Crawford

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  1. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    5 HOF fighters, along with a future HOFer, who have all retired with an unbeaten record. Based on resume and achievements where would you rank these 6 from Best to Worst?

    Rocky Marciano
    Ricardo Lopez
    Joe Calzaghe
    Andre Ward
    Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Terence Crawford
     
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  2. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis "The David Haye of Loma's Gay" -Edgar Allan Poe Full Member

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    1. Floyd Mayweather jr
    2. Rocky Marciano
    3. Terence Crawford
    4. Andre Ward
    5. Joe Calzaghe
    6. Ricardo Lopez
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Agree.

    Edit: Actually i'd flip Rocky and Crawford.
     
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  4. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Without proper analysis and comparison, I guess I'd have it:

    1. Mayweather
    2. Crawford
    3. Marciano
    4. Ward
    5. Calzaghe
    6. Lopez

    I'll wait a few years before evaluating Crawfords all time standing, whilst I dont think there's much to chose between Ward and Calzaghe.

    I'm clear in my own mind that Mayweather> Marciano> Ward/Calzaghe> Lopez.
     
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  5. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    The other names don't belong in the same sentence as Marciano
     
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  6. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marciano
    Crawford/Mayweather
    Lopez
    Calzaghe
    Ward
     
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  7. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I just read that Crawford is retiring. If that is the case, I am going to down grade him slightly based on lack of quality competition. So, my rankings would now be:

    Marciano
    Mayweather
    Crawford/Lopez
    Calzaghe
    Ward
     
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  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Rocky Marciano
    Joe Calzaghe
    Terence Crawford
    Ricardo Lopez
    Andre Ward
     
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  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I almost always agree with you but I can't see Crawford over Marciano, or even Calzaghe. I found his performances impressive but not his career.
     
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  10. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Crawford
    Mayweather
    Marciano
    Lopez
    Calzaghe
    Ward
     
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  11. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As mentioned, I won't do a deep dive analysis on Crawford's career, comparing it to others from an historical perspective, for at least a couple of years, so won't argue his position too hard until I do.

    At a high level, 5 x divison world titlest, including 3 x weight division world champion, unbeaten, with wins over the best 2 x WWs in the world aside from himself and the lineal SMW champion, who whilst clearly past prime was still ranked #6 p4p going into the fight, will probably stack up pretty well historically.

    My primary reaction to your post, though, is one of shock. Not only have you ranked Marciano above another fighter, that fighter is both modern and clearly much more "fast twitch" ;).
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    1. Mayweather
    2. Crawford
    3. Ward
    4. Marciano
    5. Calzaghe
    6. Lopez

    3-5 are razor close.

    Any list without Mayweather at 1 should be moved to a different sub forum, such as the Lounge.
     
  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Canelo has looked ordinary for years, a cash cow who himself was carefully guided and forgiven the occasional misstep for which others would have been banned. I bet $500 on Crawford beating and am not a rich man, certainly wasn't at the time. Those were just silly odds. Canelo was a one shot guy who took too long to pull the trigger and stayed on line when not throwing.

    The Spence win was again a great performance but Errol hasn't seemed the same since his car accident. Indongo has proven to be mediocre at best. Porter was in his final fight. Madrimov fought Bud very close but really hasn't panned out to be anything since. Yeah, I just don't see a lot of there there.

    Don't confuse my disdain for Marciano fanatics with a disdain for Marciano the fighter. He was an animal, a rare animal. And he stacked all the names available like cord wood while keeping busy. And yeah, he most often did it in emphatic fashion.
     
  14. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Crawford & Ward over Marciano is ridiculous.
     
  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Thanks for your analysis.