Rank these heavyweights h2h

lewis
vitali
wlad
ali
foreman
holmes
liston
frazier
tyson
louis
holyfield
dempsey
marciano
johnson



lewis may be the hardest fight EVER h2h

 

lewis
ali
vitali
tyson
holmes
holyfield
louis
foreman
liston
frazier
wlad
johnson
marciano
dempsey

 

How in the **** do the only two responses have Dempsey and Marciano in bottom two and bottom three?!?

And no, Lewis is for sure not the hardest H2H. I know it's opinion, but: Rahman and McCall. Ali and Louis only lost to fellow HOF legends. Hell, Frazier too. They would never be seen getting starched dramatically by either of them.

 

Louis
Tyson
Foreman
V. Klitschko
Johnson
Ali

 

I was getting ready to see everyone just throw Ali at the top like they usually do. I have been pleasantly surprised...

 

yeah, rahman and mccall might beg to differ

 

Lewis
Vitali (#'s 1 and 2 could go either way, but the data supports Lewis)
Vlad
Ali
Holyfield
Tyson
Holmes
Foreman
Frazier
Louis
Marciano
Dempsey
Liston
Johnson

Damn it gets hard at the bottom because none of these guys belong at the bottom of anything. I considered a current or prime form fight only, and modern conditioning, coaching, nutrition, facilities, physiological science, etc. cannot be taken out of the equation. These lists always upset people. It's subjective and opinion-based. Good post, TS.

 

Vitali K.
Lewis.
Wladimir K.
Foreman.
Holyfield (on Roids).
Holmes.
Tyson (on Roids)
Ali.
Holyfield (no Roids)
Frazier.
Liston.
Tyson (no Roids)
Louis.
Johnson.
Dempsey.
Marciano.

 

holmes
lewis
tyson

 

Some seriously shitty lists

 

Louis - The most versitile and experienced fighter listed, easily at the top.

Ali - Most fluid style, best handspeed and mobility, great chin.

Vitali K. - Possibly the toughest SOB here, akward but effective defensive style, heavy hands

Tyson - Textbook perfect form, seriously underrated defense, best head movement and explosive speed/power listed

Foreman - Foreman is a tank. He walks down and KO's everyone below him.

Wlad K. - Fantastic outside fighter, one punch power, great technique

Holyfield - Great conditioning, relentless, fearless.

Marciano - Rocky is like a junkyard dog. Breaks you down to the body, shoulders, arms..anything he can hit.

Lewis - Lewis was good outside, great 1+2, questionable conditioning and underestimated opponents at times, but fearless.

Holmes - Tough, fearless, could work outside or mix it up.

Dempsey - Mean, tough, ruggid. In a barfight I might pick him over everyone here except Vitali, but in the ring...No.

NOTE: I removed the fighters I knew the least about instead of tossing them at the bottom of the list.

Also, some fights could go either way (Ali vs. Vitali, Wlado vs. Holyfield, Lewis vs. Marciano)

 

Tyson,
Ali,
Foreman,
Louis,
Holmes,
Liston,
Lewis,
Vitali K.,
Marciano,
Holyfield,
Frazier,
Dempsey,
Johnson,
Wlad K.

 

Vitali the only admitted steroid user on list...