Rank these Heavyweights:

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  1. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Dempsey, Wills, Tunney, Langford, Jackson, Jeffries, Schmeling and Walcott (from the fighter highest on your ATG list to the one least so).

    Obviously all these guys are usually regarded as top 20 calibre, or just outside at absolute worst. List your reasons, placement, criteria and analysis (both career and stylistically speaking) if you wish to do so.



    I'm presuming the consensus is that most rate Johnson as the best old-timer overall, hence why I didn't include him. Please state if you think otherwise.
     
  2. Loewe

    Loewe internet hero Full Member

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    Hm, I don´t do any lists anymore but well that isn´t really one so I take a try:
    Jeffries
    Wills
    Dempsey
    Schmeling
    Walcott
    Langford
    Tunney

    Don´t know enough about the black prince so i let him out.
     
  3. McGrain

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    Jeffries
    Wills
    Dempsey
    Jackson
    Schmeling
    Langford
    Tunney
    Walcott

    Something like that.

    I keep changing my mind.
     
  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Jeffries
    Dempsey
    Tunney
    Langford
    Jackson
    Wills
    Schmeling
    Walcott


    I have them all in my top 30.
     
  5. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    My list, omitting Jackson for the same reason:

    Johnson
    Wills / Dempsey (tie)
    Jeffries
    Walcott
    Schmeling
    Langford
    Tunney



    That is ranked on greatness, however. I'd pick the worst of that list (Tunney) fairly confident to beat Jeffries on points in a 15 round fight, perhaps 20 too.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That's a bit Swiss.
     
  7. fidds

    fidds Boxing Addict Full Member

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    P4P though Tunney is the best of the lot
     
  8. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    I've got:

    Jeffries (#11)
    Wills (#12)
    Dempsey (#14)
    Schmeling (#16)
    Jackson (#17)
    Walcott (#18)
    Langford (#19)
    Tunney (#21)

    Missing links are Foreman, Bowe and Patterson. My 10 onwards been rejigged ever so slightly in recent months and I'm now very happy with it.
     
  9. McGrain

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    Langford completely burries Tunney pound for pound. I have 15 places between them.
     
  10. Holmes' Jab

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    Langford is top 5 'lock on' P4P: Tunney is somewhere in the low-mid teens IMO.
     
  11. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    It's a good day to be Swiss.
     
  12. fists of fury

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    Dempsey
    Jeffries
    Wills
    Schmeling
    Tunney
    Langford
    Walcott
    Jackson

    ...Not an era(s) I am all that knowledgeable about, but that's my list.
     
  13. Bummy Davis

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    Dempsey, Wills, Tunney, Langford, Jackson, Jeffries, Schmeling and Walcott

    1)Dempsey
    2)Jeffries
    3)Walcott
    4)Tunney
    5)Wills
    6)Schmeling
    7)Langford
    8)Jackson
     
  14. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    Thanks for the chance to put myself in the 'fireing line' Holmes Jab.
    I list these men in order of boxing skills of their particular era,.., as we cant compare Fangio to Schumacher.. The boxers Vehicle was their traning, fitness and knowledge..

    1.Jackson..N/A... i dont wish to rate him at No.10.. suffice to say, we consider the No.2 as the top...

    2.Jack Dempsey. The man was simply the most idealistic person to fit the mould of "heavyweight champion of the world", at the most important time in the history of of the sport. Speculate all you wish.

    3. Sam Langford. At the turn of the century, Langford was possibly the greatest speciman of a mans physical nature, and he faught like a threshing machine.

    4. Jim Jeffries. As we know, Jim went through his career with only one blemish. Thanks to Jack Johnson in 1910. With his massive frame and and iron toughness, he needs to be considered above Tunney...??

    5. Jersey Joe. This will upset many.. Joe Walcott was, and who can argue, a hard punching, fleet footed dancer ... I doubt very much that Tunney may have been able to dance as quickly in order to hit sufficiently to drop Walcott.

    6. Gene Tunney.. With the record of one defeat via the hands of someone named .."greb"...Gene Tunney is/was one of the most interesting chapters in the HWD.. He amassed an amazing record 76-1... its nasty to say, I know, but, due to his extremerly orthodox style, I believe Walcott would have put him to bed very early.

    7. Max Schmeling. I have a video of Schmeling and Dempsey sparing from 1936-37... although its only sparing, Jack handled him quite well... Schmeling was the greatest European Heavyweight in the first half of the century.. perhaps better than most give him credit for??

    8. Wills... N/A