Ranking Fighters By Amount of HOF Opponents

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  1. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How many HOF opponents do each of these fighters have on their resume?


    Roy Jones Jr
    Bernard Hopkins
    Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Manny Pacquiao
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Mike Tyson
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Marvin Hagler
    Thomas Hearns
    Roberto Duran




    I feel like counting each of their HOF opponents would be a fair way to discuss & compare resumes
     
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  2. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Add Mosley to that list he has an impressive list of opponents aswell.
    (Win/lose)
     
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  3. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    and losses to an HOF should not be credited.

    (so Calzaghe should not count for Jones or Hopkins, along with all HOFs that Oscar lost to)
     
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  4. tennis

    tennis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roy beat prime versions of Hopkins and toney

    That alone puts him alongside Robinson and greb

    No other middleweight in history could have beaten those two and roy dismantled them

    Floyd is talented enough, but no prime Williams= very big duck this mayweather
     
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  5. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    was thinking the same thing but i don't think he's in the tier of guys I listed. I don't know Hearns, Hagler, SRL and Durans resume like that but for the others. Actually I think I will add cotto cause he has a pretty great resume for not jumping around to a lot of divisions.


    Floyd - Chico, Castillo, Mosley, JMM, ODLH, Genaro, Hatton, Cotto, Gatti,
    Pacquiao - JMM, Hatton, ODLH, Mosley, Cotto, Morales, Bradley, MAB
    ODLH - Mayweather, Pacquiao, Mosley, Bhop, Gatti, tito, JLC, Pernell, JCC, Genaro
    BHOP - RJJ, Calz, ODLH, Tito
    Roy - Tarver, BHOP, Toney
    Cotto - Floyd, Manny, Shane,
     
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  6. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think you should still get credited for a HOF loss. It takes guts to stand in there with someone thats a potential HOF'er. Obviously when comparing one fighter vs another it should be noted who you lost to and who you beat.

    But just to think about how many HOF'ers someone fought against I think wins and losses should be accounted for.
     
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  7. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    :lol::rofl:patsch
     
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  8. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    the roy vs bhop thing is always interesting to me because i feel like an argument can be made for bhop still being green. Even though he was an older fighter he definitely hadn't hit his stride as a fighter yet.
     
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  9. Imperial1

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    Hopkins didn't lose another fight for ten yrs after Jones so that theory goes out the window !!
     
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  10. shoulderroll

    shoulderroll Active Member Full Member

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    Manny Pacquiao is on a losing streak but his record is quite impressive...

    Marco Antonio Barrera (2x)
    Juan Manuel Marquez (2x)
    Erik Morales (2x)
    Miguel Cotto
    Oscar Dela Hoya
    Shane Mosley
    Oscar Larios

    Are all possibilities to be inducted to the Hall of Fame
     
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  11. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    is Larios a potential HOF'er? I wouldn't even know...
     
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  12. tennis

    tennis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd doesn't even have one atg on his résumé

    Unless we pretend Oscar and Shane weren't washed up

    In which case PAC did 100 times better against floyds best two wins

    Lol

    If losses don't count then don't forget Castillo beat floyd
     
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  13. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    I don't agree. if we count losses, then we would have in the list hatton (he fought 4 HOFs (pac, floyd, zoo, castillo but losing to two) or casamayor (he also fought 4 - bradley, marquez, corrales, and castillo, but losing to 3)
     
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  14. nes01

    nes01 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For the sake of measuring achievement by using resumes, it makes no sense to include losses as they are not an achievement. You think it's some kind of moral achievement to show "guts" (lol) but it is no boxing achievement.

    Only wins count, or Zab Judah would have the best resume out there.
     
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  15. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    hatton is a HOF'er but he's not on the same level of boxing ability as the guys on the original list
     
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