Ranking the hw's based on top 3 victories since 08.

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    fair point! I don't think he's as good as the few I mentioned but if a top 10 was made it could be right up there!
     
    lufcrazy, Aug 28, 2011
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yeah.

    I'd be pulling for him every time, but Boz would lose to most of them. He would probably get stopped by both Klitschkos, and outboxed by Povetkin and Chambers. Haye would either pot shot him to a decision or get Thompson'ed. Adamek could actually be a close call. With Helenius it would be a matter of if and when the Finn landed a big shot on him.
     
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  3. lufcrazy

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    you paint a very promising picture haha
     
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  4. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    ****, do you just pick white boxers and talk **** about them?

    Wladimir Klitschko's last 10 fights rank amongst one of the toughest streaks a fighter has come through without a loss.

    Haye - #3 in the division (next to Vitali and Wlad), belt holder, former undisputed CW champion on an impressive winning streak

    Peter - Top 10 in division at the time, previously difficult fight for Wlad, not even close in the rematch

    Chambers - #4 in division, close loss to Povetkin the only loss on his card, impressive streak including Dimitrenko and Peters before being sparked in the 12th

    Chagaev - Undefeated, #3 in division, title holder, made him quit

    Rahman - Ok, **** fight, corpse of Rahman

    Tony Thompson - Top 10 in division, about to fight for IBF eliminator, good solid contender.

    Ibragimov - #3 in division, undefeated title holder, seen as skillful with fast hands, absolutely shut out by Wlad

    Brewster - #5 in division, former title holder in a close fight and an avenged rematch for Wlad, not even close in the fight

    Austin - Top 10 fighter, solid but not spectacular

    Brock - #3 in division, undefeated fighter who had defeated a few Top 10 fighters, easily spanked by Wlad.

    So, in his last ten fights, Wlad has 4 fights against the best HW fighter of the time not named a Klitschko, another two fights against guys in the Top 5 and the rest of his fights excluding Rahman all Top 10 ring ranked fighters.

    Find me anyone else who can claim that in their own division, fighting 10 Top 10 guys, with many of them being Top 3.
     
    PugilisticPower, Aug 28, 2011
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  5. Blake Rayne

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    How about the manner in which they achieved these victories. That's gotta count for something. Vit was pretty impressive against Gomez and he did stop Chris for the first time.
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    what the hell has that got to do with the thread?
     
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  7. lufcrazy

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    yes manner is important and I think that is where you'd have to put vitali above the others bar wlad. pov has not dominated neither has chambers nor the others really.

    just on paper, who's 3 do you prefer? pov's, chmabers or vitali's?
     
    lufcrazy, Aug 28, 2011
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  8. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    The context of "Let's take the last 3 years and measure" doesn't work in todays era. Maybe twenty years ago when they'd have 10-12 fights it would have.

    In this era, take five to ten fights and compare based on that, take their best wins from that period because it's a much better yardstick, fighters don't fight as frequently.

    Quite simply, very few boxers on a sheer Ring ranking level have defeated the types of opponents Wlad has for his last 10 fights without a loss.
     
    PugilisticPower, Aug 28, 2011
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  9. lufcrazy

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    maybe they have but I guess that's for another thread right?

    I'm not sure why you think I'm this anti-white guy but I'm as pale as they come buddy.

    I was thinking about Vitali's comeback and it was approx 3 years ago, so I figured allowing for 1 marquee victory a year, take the best 3.

    Wlad is head and shoulders above the rest anyways.

    His run since the first peter fight is the reason he's on everyone's top 15 list today. he gets his props by almost everyone worth talking to.

    Hell he is dicking everyone in this thread anyways, if you wanna do a p4p last 10 thread go for it. I'll be sure to leave a comment :good
     
    lufcrazy, Aug 28, 2011
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  10. lufcrazy

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    p.s. when did austin crack the top 10?
     
    lufcrazy, Aug 28, 2011
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  11. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Because most of your threads tend to be some bull**** about the boxers who are actually doing their divisions justice, rather than guys like Pacquaio who just **** around in catch weight fights and refuse to fight the best guys.

    As for marquee victories, I hit that point in another thread - it's virtually impossible to clock up a high number of marquee wins (even though in my view and as per above, Wlad has done just that) when there are two brothers at the top of their game, each taking out two or so contenders a year.

    Adamek would be a good solid win for either fighter, but only one fighter gets to have him.
     
    PugilisticPower, Aug 28, 2011
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  12. lufcrazy

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    Ranking the hw's based on top 3 victories since 08.
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    my last few threads.

    this one clearly demonstrates wlad being above the contenders in a recent resume sense.
    my p4p resume thread is listing the opposition of every HOF fighter from the 80's onwards, so that's hardly bull**** about great fighters.
    the hw thread is similar but for every number 1 hw since the inception of the division, again that's hardly bull**** about great fighters.
    my next one is ranking the order of holyfield, frazier, dempsey and liston, again all great fighters.
    the next one is a fantasy matchup between frazier and shavers to highlight my view that frazier has a solid beard, so again that's not bullshitting a great.
    the next one was my first thread in the classic asking for info about langford.
    the next one is about jones if he stayed at HW instead of dropping back down.
    the next one is about dirrell and how i'd favour him over any 168 fighter today.
    the next one is about tiberi and one of the greatest robberies of all time.
    the next one is a debate about who ranks higher between tyson and holyfield.
    the next one is discussing fights where you disagree with the outcome and has about 50 fights suggested by myself.
    the next one is about giving norton his props
    the next one is about giving jmm his props.
    the next one is about larry holmes and his losses to mike and evander.

    so in conclusion, none of my recent threads are about bullshitting any fighter. maybe there's some silly threads from a year or so back but I'd say all of my recent threads this year are the opposite of what you described.
     
    lufcrazy, Aug 28, 2011
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  13. RUSKULL

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    Austin was a mandatory defense and Wlad knocked him out spectacularly with a series of left hooks, he never even threw a single right hand for the entire fight.
     
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  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Yeah I thought he was a mandatory, he never broke the ring top ten tho did he?
     
    lufcrazy, Aug 28, 2011
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  15. RUSKULL

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    Probably not, but Austin had the next best thing, Don King, and a close Dec. loss to Sultan Ibragimov.
     
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