Rankings of the hall of famers at the time Marciano fought them

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Thought it might be interesting

    Rankings:

    Joe Louis- # 1

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...J&pg=3400,1116508&dq=joe+louis+number+1&hl=en

    Jersey Joe Walcott- Heavyweight Champion/# 1


    Ezzard Charles- # 1

    The Ring's heavyweight ratings for May 1954 were as follows:

    (Ratings dated May 20)
    Champion: Rocky Marciano
    1. Ezzard Charles
    2. Nino Valdes
    3. Don Cockell
    4. Jimmy Slade
    5. Tommy Jackson
    6. Roland La Starza
    7. Dan Bucceroni
    8. Earl Walls
    9. Heinz Neuhaus
    10. Tommy Harrison



    Archie Moore- # 1

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...5129755&dq=archie+moore+ranked+number+1&hl=en




    I think this is a remarkable stat. Every single hall of famer Marciano faced was # 1 in the division. Old men or not, how many great fighters have defeated 4 hall of famers who were either champions or rated # 1 in the division at the time he fought them? Weak era? maybe, but I doubt that's been duplicated more than 5 times in history.
     
  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mosley I think was no1 when Mayweather beat him

    That doesn't do allot for your argument/spin
     
  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Margarito was a big win for Shane. Mosley was the champion coming off one of his career best wins over the "feared" Antonio Margarito.
     
  4. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Say what :lol:
     
  5. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Floyd dominated a far past his prime but still # 1 welterweight in the world Shane Mosley(who was coming off a knockout of Margarito). In case you forgot, people feared for Mosley's life before he got into the ring with Margarito. I personally think Floyd took a lot out of shane in their fight.
     
  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    back to the thread. stick to marciano
     
  7. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    In terms of primeness, Charles/Walcott were a little past prime, Moore a little past prime, Louis significantly past prime. Rocky wasn't prime himself against Moore any more (pardon the pun)

    I have allot of respect for Marciano taking on all comers, prime or not. And as for era quality, I'd rate it over Dempsey's, Johnson's, the late 50s and probably much if not all of Louis's reign
     
  8. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yup, Mosley is probably shanes best wins :tong
     
  9. Shake

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    Though Louis was #1, he would not have been an ATG had he been at that level for his entire career, so the "ATG" portion of this statement is a bit irrelevant.
     
  10. PowerPuncher

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    I don't like the way Shane beat himself up over it though
     
  11. DonBoxer

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    :lol:
     
  12. Legend X

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    Yeah, they were all past their prime.
    I guess that suggests that the young heavyweights around at the time weren't much good. (excepting Marciano, of course)
     
  13. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All you can do is fight the best at the time...and be judged on that...
     
  14. The Mongoose

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    Marciano destroyed one of his higher regarded peers in Layne. Henry, Baker, and Valdez were solid young talents as film shows. Harold Johnson was actually quite great and close to a Marciano fight. Problem was you had an aged phenom named Archie Moore at the height of his powers, suckering these guys into high risk/low reward fights on a regular basis and taking thier rankings to push himself into a Marciano fight. Had it not been for Moore, I'm sure Johnson, Baker, and Valdez would have at least got title shots.
     
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  15. luke

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    number one might have been shane, but comeone these boxing boards are known for bs rankings, pac was and has been his no1 since about 07/08. so...