Rate Beau Jack Please

I'd have him in yeah

 

I consider mid 30's to early 50's the peak of boxing.

It features the deepest talent pools, the toughest fighters, the best trainers/training, 15 rounders, and only one champion.

You were up against 10 times as many fighters as there are today, and all of them badasses.

To make it to the top meant you were a badass. To make it to the top with a style like Jack means that he was exceptional at his game. That means he was the best at his game, being that he beat many men that were much more skilled. That also means he must be considered underrated in terms of skill.

The guys at the top in those days were the cream of a different crop; not just the top 10, but the top 20, 30 guys were all tougher than the next...

Beau Jack must be given his due for doing as well as he did for being just a brawler or swarmer or slugger or whatever label you want to put on him; he wasn't known for his boxing finesse or his stellar defense; he was a straight badass.



It's obvious he was great because he was better at his "unskilled" or "unrefined" game than the tacticians were at theirs. Anyone who can run with two (three if you consider Armstrong at that point) of arguably top 5 of that division ever and make a good account of himself deserves massive props and a fitting rating.

Top 20 EASY

 

He's also the only fighter ever to stop Angott in 100-plus fights.

He also beat other good WWs like Johnny Bratton and Johnny Greco.

 

Can't remember where I ranked him at lw but emphasis must be made on how deep this division is.

 

Beau has to be some where top 20,from little Ive seen him he could bang,box do it all.

 

Maybe, he doesn't get talked about because it's hard to find his fights. It's easier to form a good opinion of fighters once you've seen a lot of them. The only fight available on youtube is his near death loss to Ike Williams. His fights with Bob Montgomery were back to back fight of the years but good luck finding them.

 

Hm?

 

Benny Leonard
Roberto Duran
Pernell Whittaker
Henry Armstrong
Ike Williams
Joe Gans
Joe Brown
Packey McFarland
Lou Ambers
Sammy Mandell
Tony Canzoneri
Carlos Ortiz
Barney Ross
Sammy Angott
Bob Montgomery
Beau Jack
Freddie Welsh
Jimmy Carter
Kid Lavigne
Alexis Arguello
Julio Cesar Chavez
Jackie Berg
Jack McAuliffe

 

Ah, Johnny Greco, a name from the past. Johnny Greco from Montreal, Canada was my very firsy boxing idol, though the first time I saw Greco,he flattened a neighbor of mine Harold Green at a MSG prelim bout. Johnny Greco came up at the same time as Ike Williams,as a terrific punching lightweight sensation. But he became a WW and was slowed down by the weight, and had a good, but not great career .One afternoon I saw " my idol" Greco who was retired ,walking down Broadway in NYC. Should have said hello, but didn't, and one week or so Greco died in an auto accident in Montreal...Ah nostalgia !