Rate best sub 175 men pre 1930.

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  1. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    OK another thread, McGrain's top 100 sparked off this idea, rate the top, I don't know, say 25, men under 175 pounds pre 1930.
    Off the top of my head, and feel free to add to the mix;
    Choynski,
    Root,
    Childs
    McCoy
    O'Brien
    Burns
    Fitz
    Gardner
    Langford
    Ryan
    Walcott
    Clarke
    Dillon
    Ketchell
    Carpentier
    Levinsky
    Norfolk
    Greb
    Gibbons
    Miske
    Loughran
    Delaney
    Stribling
    Walker.......
    I'm sure I missed some.
    Ground rules, body of work at all weights count, we're talking career accomplishments here, body of work, peak ability with a bit of head to head to seperate close calls.
     
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  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jack Johnson for a while
     
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  3. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Guys in red, top ten?
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    Choynski,
    Root,
    Childs
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    O'Brien
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    Gardner
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    Ryan
    Walcott
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    Dillon
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    Carpentier
    Levinsky
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    Miske
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    Delaney
    Stribling
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    .......

    Oh sheeet, that's eleven.
     
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  4. the_bigunit

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    Pre-'30: My favorite.

    1. Harry Greb
    2. Sam Langford
    3. Benny Leonard
    4. Bob Fitzsimmons
    5. Mickey Walker
    6. Joe Gans
    7. Packey McFarland
    8. Barbados Joe Walcott
    9. Terry McGovern
    10. George Dixon

    11-20: Gene Tunney, Jimmmy Wilde, Stanley Ketchel, Tommy Loughran, Kid McCoy, Abe Attell, Nonpareil Jack Dempsey, Ted Kid Lewis, Tommy Ryan, Jack Britton
     
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  5. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Oh sheet" is right. Now Matt....(;))please tell me you're not talking TOMMY Burns here. A good fighter, but in no way deserving to be anywhere near this list. And if you do in fact mean Tommy B....tell me that this is an early April Fool's joke... :smoke
     
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  6. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Personally, i think we might need tiers and a top 100!
     
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  7. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First of all I like that list!
    Second and to clarify I meant this to be The best 175 pounders and not a P4P list-
    Sorry for any confusion.
    Surf-bat, still upset about Little Tammy?
     
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  8. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I forgot Tunney.

    Choynski,
    Root,
    Childs
    McCoy
    O'Brien
    Burns
    Fitz
    Gardner
    Langford
    Ryan
    Walcott
    Clarke
    Dillon
    Ketchell
    Carpentier
    Levinsky
    Norfolk
    Greb
    Gibbons
    Miske
    Loughran
    Delaney
    Stribling
    Walker.......
    I'm sure I missed some.
    Ground rules, body of work at all weights count, we're talking career accomplishments here, body of work, peak ability with a bit of head to head to seperate close calls. Oh and it's not P4P!
     
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  9. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    OK then;
    1-Langford
    2-Tunney
    3-Fitz
    4-Greb
    5-Loughran
    6-Clarke
    A starting point.
     
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  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I like the top 4. Would list Burns after Greb
     
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  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    There was a guy named Tunney who was fair to middlin'.
     
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  12. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1-Langford
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    3-Fitz
    4-Greb
    5-Loughran
    6-Clarke

    Hi Seamus!
     
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  13. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Care to try a top 20?
     
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  14. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have to say, I really have never seen the fuss over Clarke that so many people seem to make. I would like to know your reasoning for putting him so high. He is definitely nowhere near the other guys you mention. I think i could think of 20 people i would rank higher, at least. But i am open for someone to convince me otherwise.
     
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  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Battling Bozo was an underrated performer.

    I think he makes the top 30.
     
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