Rate fighters after their peers' opinion

who said that?

 

Jack Dempsey apparently. It's been branded about but I'm not sure if I believe it.

 

I think it's a direct quote from Dempsey's autobiography "Dempsey" published in the 1970s, I think.

 

Dempsey was referring to the time ,when as a young raw fighter ,his then manager John The Barber tried to force him into a match with Langford,for which he was manifestly not ready ,he was inveigled into a fight with John Lester Johnson instead and got his ribs broke.
Dempsey was still a work in progress,he started to make real strides,when he tied up with Kearns.

 

Please put that on youtube!

 

Dempsey was forced to fight guys that were so much better than him when he was up and coming that he fired his manager, he didnt have the skill then to take on the elite guys that his manager forced on him.Kerans said when he found Dempsey he was suffering from low self esteem and was a real wreck, a vagrant and i think there were implications of his morals being quite questionable by kearns before doc found him.

 

Yeah id love to see that, unless its not a film and just a transcript of an interview.

 

After the last Greb Tunney fight, Harry said Tunney was too good a boxer, not just for himself, but for Dempsey. And so it proved. That's pretty high praise.

 

Because he was black, bra. Just say it. We all know it. Theres no guilt trip, whiteys. It is what it is and it was.

 

"When he died, I didn't give a ****!" (The recording of this quote may still be on youtube. Basilio wasn't shown saying this, but there's no question who the voice and attitude belonged to.) It would have been something to see him actually slug the referee at the end of Fullmer II and get taken out of the ring in cuffs.

Pep apparently volunteered with Basilio during the formative years at the IBHOF, and Willie has plenty of other supporters who rate him over Robby.

 

This was from a young [21] Dempsey when he first came to New York in 1916...His first manager threw him in with a seasoned veteran,John Lester
Johnson, who broke 3 of young Dempsey,s ribs in a ND bout...Dempsey was wise not to tackle the great Sam Langford in that stage of his career.

 

I am white and I have no "guilt " trip 100 years later whatsoever...
And don,t call me whitey,you dont even know me and my background...You Pachilles dont intimidate me, remember.....

 

Thats because Harry never said it. It was disinformation out of Dempseys camp.