Rate Joe Louis' defense

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Louis' defensive abilities

  1. Poor

  2. Somewhat lacking

  3. Decent

  4. Very good

  5. Outstanding

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  1. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not understanding the relevance of Joe dodging some of Max's jabs, as if that was something significant. By no means was Max or Buddy some outstanding technician or jabbing prodigy. They were more crude than technical. So what does Joe dodging such a jab prove or disprove?
     
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  2. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Outstanding" defense gave me a chuckle
     
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  3. janitor

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    Given the way that Louis fought, he actually got hit cleanly fairly infrequently.

    If you don't give him some credit for his defense, then his chin must have been a lot better than given credit for.
     
  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Either that or his offense was incredible (and his opposition often less than stellar)...
     
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  5. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    You must be two years behind. The new revisionist take on Max Baer is that he had subtle skills (on offense and defense) and could control fights with his excellent jab.
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Even the best of a weak era, will ruthlessly expose the flaws in a fighters defense.
     
  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Like some of Louis’ best opponents exposed some of his?
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes, but you also have to look at what they didn't do.

    Its not like the best boxers teed off on him, until he caught up with them.
     
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  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    If Louis got hit so damn often according to the lot of you, his chin couldn't have been the glass you make it out to be.
     
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  10. STEPHEN1990

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    Never knew that about bear It's a shame they didn't do a book or a movie on his career
     
  11. swagdelfadeel

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    One thing that must be known Joe Louis was that he was very deceptive. He could play with range and could feint vulnerability to lure his opponent in. Guys wouldn't realize they were trapped until it was too late.
     
  12. janitor

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    If you go after a fighter too hard on one thing, you can end up having to give them back something else.

    That is the paradox here.

    Louis's most vehement critics say things like "his chin was glass, and he was easy to hit".

    OK so why wasn't he getting knocked out left right and center?
     
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  13. KuRuPT

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    LOL... This is so rich it's palpable
     
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  14. KuRuPT

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    He did get hit, and all the KD he suffered attest to that very thing. He recuperative abilities were special, but that doesn't mean his defense or chin was special.
     
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  15. janitor

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    31 fights against ranked opposition, and not stopped over a fifteen year period.

    That is a lot to chalk up to recuperative abilities!