Rate Margarito's Performance Against Cotto

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  1. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Don't really think he handed him the fight, that's how the man fights and he gave what he had to offer and what he offers is no joke but Margarito was able to take it. You might say Margarito performed poorly but that's how he fights, he doesn't have much of speed nor skills but his stamina and chin makes up for it BIG TIME, you can have all the skill in the world but against a fighter who can throw up to 100 each round for the full 12 and not even show any signs of getting tired then you can be broken down, especially when you don't have good movement/defense. That's what Margarito offers, it can be considered poor or whatever but it's not really easy to handle unless the opponent is very good defensively and can constantly move/avoid those slow predictable punches without getting tired late.
     
  2. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    I can see what you're saying to a certain extent.
     
  3. Scar

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    I totally believe that and mentioned it numerous times, about the RPG characters with set attacks. The night Margarito fought Cotto he brought what he has to offer 100% and like a RPG character programmed to do specific stuff he did what he was supposed to do and kept it up all night, I would say that was his night. Not sure about Cotto and it's very easy to invent excuses for the man who lost the fight because he lost and looked bad in losing, he brought what he was supposed to as he showed early by actually winning the fight on the cards but couldn't handle what Margarito offered. I know how both of those guys fights as I followed them a lot, especially Cotto and know that both fought the way they usually do, only difference I saw in Cotto was not enough body shots and that had to do with Margarito being prepared for them and avoiding them which encouraged Cotto to throw and land on his wide open face.
     
  4. Scar

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    Watch more of Margarito, that's how he usually fights. Put him in there against a very skilled fighter defensively and the flaws will be endless to spot, when a guy fights HIS type of fight and stands in there he's basically ****ed unless they have the stamina he has and ability to take a punch which isn't really easy to have.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

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    I gave him a B+, that could be considered generous depending on who you ask. Technically it wasn't great work at all(wide punching, porous defense, zero ability to cut off the ring), but his relentlessness, durability, stamina, and power eventually just overwhelmed the more technically skilled(but also flawed) Cotto. Best performance of his career though, for sure.
     
  6. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    LOL, actually you've turned that around on me quite brilliantly. I have to agree with that.
     
  7. Scar

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    :good
     
  8. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    I've seen alot of him. I realize you don't think especially highly of him as a fighter. He's better than you may think, but I won't argue because I know your taste in fighters. He's about as good as you say he is, but in a different way he's much better.
     
  9. Scar

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    Oh I don't rate him as a trash fighter, not at all, his boxing skills aren't high at all and I believe both of us can agree with that as it's very obvious. But I rate his stamina and activity A+ which is something I won't really give to anyone unless it's INSANELY good and yes those two are enough to either give a very skilled fighter HELL or even beat them though his ring cutting skills are very poor and the same can be said about his speed. Very predictable yet very difficult to handle.
     
  10. Monstar

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    B.....

    the only thing that impressed me was his chin and workrate
     
  11. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    By that criteria I can see why you gave him a high score, that makes sense. I still say he can do much better - the good thing is we'll get a chance to see.
     
  12. BENNY BLANCO

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    It's easy to say how bad Margarito looked but you at least have to attribute some of that to Cotto who was boxing very good in the first half of the fight and was'nt missing the target at all,people don't give Cotto enough credit on how much of an accurate puncher he really is even against semi slick fighters like Quintana and Malignaggi. Margarito performance deserves a B+ rating but we should be fair and attribute at least some of that to Cotto.
     
  13. mexican legend

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    A-, he did what Margarito does best. He stalked and punished his opponent until they quit. However he should have jumped on him from the beginning and punished him sooner. He also should have cut the ring off better. Other than that it was a solid performance by Antonio Margarito,
     
  14. konaman

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    And they are arguably the two most important traits of a fighter, they were both A+ on the night. A thread like this is always going to give strange results because it comes down to the definition of a good performance. The most important part of Margos game was his chin, and defending punches with your face is generally not looked upon highly.

    Technically it was a pretty poor display, any lesser chinned fighter would have been stopped. But there is more to performing in the ring and getting the result than boxing skills alone, the fight showed that.
     
  15. Pimp C

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