Rate Mike Tyson's chin

Yeah pretty much this.

 

Awesome material, as always. I had heard the McCall interview before but not the commentary by Lennox Lewis and Frank Bruno. Tyson was definitely near perhaps his highest point of arrogance, displayed in his post-fight interview after knocking off Carl Williams back in July of 1989. This is classic **** and probably my favorite PF interview during Tyson's reign save possibly for Tyrell Biggs.

From 13:45 onward:

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Yeah. He did seem to get refocused after Douglas but he still was a bit of a mess from a technical stand-point. And his "fluidity" was not there. It's weird how you can watch him decline in technical ability and fluidity in such a fast pace. But that's where that specific Catskill training came in.

That one article I posted up before....about Cus training Buster Mathis and the use of the "Willy"...was key in Tyson's training. He didn't use it when he left Rooney. Did you ever read that article...Cus and Buster and the use of the "Willy" ?


Post-Douglas, King brought in Richie Giachetti. I though Giachett helped Tyson's straight-right look better...specifically by Ruddock II (which Giachetti noted was when it was improved and used).

But the interesting note on all that...and I first saw it in a S.I. article but have this one on hand, is this...

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Holyfield looked pretty mean there. As far as Tyson post fight interviews go, Biggs is the best by far. This one is good too. And the first Ruddock post fight interview was short and sweet, my personal favorite.

 

By the way, Tyson's chin is ****in solid. Top tier. One of the best.

 

Whoa. Could he have discarded the peek-a-boo question any quicker?

Funnily enough, some of my favorite Tyson fights of all-time took place post-Spinks when he started to fall by the wayside technically and defensively. It's almost as if it weren't possible to have great two-sided fights with the level he'd been performing at. Peak Mike rules the day without a doubt, but I thoroughly enjoyed Ruddock I & II and Bruno I. The Williams KO and the left hook after slipping the jab is one of my favorites too.

 

Tyson vs. Ruddock were quite entertaining. It seems some like Floyd more now that he has declined physically (which with Tyson it was technical-skills). It makes things a bit more even. Same happened to Ali post-exile.

The problem I have with it is the effect it could have after a possible loss. When they lose its a...I told you they were overrated without every noted the decline. Even if you post video evidence of it up.

Jones jr. might be one of the worst case scenarios. I think Floyd even mentioned that. It's like they can't wait to discredit you and forget what you were like at your best.
With Jones jr. I think it was worse because he looked like a damn ghost when he came back down in weight (and view bothered to note his age, decline in his 30's before even going up to HW...and the history of what happens to fighters when they move up and come back down specifically later in their career).
They'll say dumb stuff like, "He never was hit in his prime." Really? you mean he went that long without taking a shot? WOW. That's some serious skill.
People just exaggerate and/or block things out.


The positive for Tyson in Bruno I and the two Ruddock fights...was that Tyson was able to show he could take a punch. That's if you missed the Tucker uppercut. He also showed "heart" in that he was able to come back after being stunned. Bruno stunned him momentarily, and so did Ruddock in their first fight. Maybe even in the second but not as noticeable as in their first meeting. Ruddock wasn't scared of Tyson either and fought Tyson. Popped him good. And yet, Tyson fought back and won. So much for all you have to do is not be afraid of him, stand up to him, and pop him good and he'll fold. BULL****.
Even Ribalta said he wasn't scared of Tyson. It didn't work out to well for him either. And remember, all this while Tyson was on the decline...and with Ruddock, AFTER he lost to Douglas and lost that "Invincibility" aura.


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Considering how badly Tyson dismissed him, can't say I blame him.

I love Evander too. Without a doubt, one of the toughest mother****ers to ever set foot in a boxing ring.

As much as I'm an advocate for p4p mythology and all that ****, my Heavyweight bias will surface on the discussion of chins, in which I feel Holyfield had one of the greatest ever, period. Some of the punchers -- and the size by which they outweighed him -- was absolutely Murderous.

If Marvin Hagler wanted to have a better chin than Evander Holyfield, he should've fought Michael Spinks. And guess what? It still would've paled in comparison to what Holyfield dealt with in Bowe, Lewis, Foreman, Tyson, Cooper. That's because it isn't a relative to weight class in this world, there is no limit. Holyfield took shots from SIGNIFICANTLY bigger men.

 

People will always talk. It's not all that irritating considering how easily correctable it is with irrefutable proof otherwise on these matters. Hardly anybody has posted on this thread but since I bumped it, tens of people have added the correct votes on the poll.

 

Neither did a lot of guys,
Lennox Lewis
Muhammad Ali
Larry Holmes
George Foreman

A few guys who never got up off the canvas to win a fight they were losing....

 

Anyone who says Tyson had a "poor" chin is a god damn idiot.

 

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Tyson had a great chin. The reason he got knocked out by Douglas etc was because of the volume of punches he absorbed. Also later in his career it is well documented that he did not train as hard as he did previously. Most people who know anything about boxing understand that conditioning matters a lot in terms of recovery and taking a punch well

 

Tyson only ever went down from accumilation of punches. He was rocked by the odd big shot but never went down like Lewis did for example. And its the shots you don't see that KO you anyway as even Lewis on many occasions showed a great chin!

Anyone can be KO'd. If it doesn't happen from one huge shot they never saw coming it can always happen from accumilation. Keep chipping away at any tree with an axe and eventually it will fall. Fighters get worn down just the same. Their resistance lessens the more they get hit. Seen many a fight were a fighter took bombs early in the fight only to go over and out eventually later in the fight with what seemed like much lesser punches...what happend? They got more tired and also worn down with their punch resistance...and eventually over they went!

 

That Ruddock shot was deadly. You can't tell from this GIF, but Ruddock couldn't believe Tyson Took those flush bombs.