Rate Roberto Durans Resume

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  1. JLP 6

    JLP 6 Fighter/Puncher Full Member

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    I used the version of these fighter at the time they fought Mayweather not at the prime. That Marquez is not better than anyone I mentioned from Durans resume.
     
  2. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto is better than Dejesus. What kind of nonsense is it to say Dejesus was better? So Duran looks better that he beat him? Cotto was much better than Dejesus.
     
  3. JLP 6

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    OK,

    I will give my reasons. DeJesus beat a prime Duran and dropped him twice. Beat
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    twice who was tough (watch him verse prime Duran and that will tell you how tough he was), moved up in weight and gave the great
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    all he could handle, beat
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    who beat Buchanan, and in his last fight DeJesus fought
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    . On top of that, at 135 I think he would beat Cotto.

    It is not only that he beat Duran but, that he also was a lightweight champion and a Jr. Welterweight condenter who always fought the best and usually beat them. Why is Cotto better than DeJesus? Before you bring up his multiple titles, please add the context of the titles. I will give a little of what I see in his title wins and losses of them.

    Cesar Bazan - Won vacant WBC International Light Welterweight title.
    Kelson Pinto - Won vacant WBO Light Welterweight title.
    Carlos Quintana - Won vacant WBA Welterweight title.
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    Michael Jennings - Won vacant WBO Welterweight title.
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    Yuri Foreman - Won WBA World Light Middleweight title.
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    Sergio Martínez - Won The Ring and WBC Middleweight titles.


    If Cotto would have been fighting in say 1972 when DeJesus beat Duran he would have to face these champions:

    Robert Duran at 135
    Antonio Cervantes at 140
    Jose Napoles at 147
    Carlos Monzon at 160
    Bob Foster at 175

    That is it. There are no Cesar Bazan's, Kelson Pinto's, or Michael Jennings' etc. No WBO's and Super
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  4. rossco666

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    :rofl I think you need to actually watch fighters rather as just check boxrec.

    DeJesus was better than Cotto and Buchanan would have boxed circles round Cotto. Much better era of talent. Those guy's would be p4p top 5 in this era imo
     
  5. LittleRed

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    Well the question was not is Cotto better than Dejesus, it was is Cotto better than Edwin Viruet. And I don't think that really needs to be asked.
     
  6. JLP 6

    JLP 6 Fighter/Puncher Full Member

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    The question is being answered, thought not completely agreed with, not completely disagreed with either.The Duran list I provided (which I forgot to put Moore and Barkley) is being compared to the highest level of comp that Mayweather has fought. This list that is loosely ranked shows me saying that Mayweathers competition at the time he fought them does not get any higher than Viruet. "At the time he fought them", important phrase, makes it clear that none of fighters that Mayweather fought compare to the DeJesus that Duran fought. Basically, DeJesus is the cut-off point.

    Leonard
    Hagler
    Hearns
    Benitez
    Palomino
    Cuevas
    Buchannan
    DeJesus
    Viruet - (Mayweather's highest level of competition is about here.)
    Marcel

    I don't think Mayweather competition level gets any higher than Viruet. Cotto may be better than him...but, I am not sure if I can see Cotto beating his man. I really don't. Viruet only lost to Duran and DeJesus in his prime years. Nothing wrong there. 30 round with Duran and Duran could do nothing with him. Duran beat him on points because Viruet was too mobile and too smart to try and trade with Duran. But at the same time he did not take the Duran fights serious. He thought Duran was a joke.

    No one is giving any reason why Cotto is better than these guys. I see statements but, not reason.