Rate the following Middleweights for power

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Where Julian Jackson is a 10, how would you score the following from 1 upwards?


    Sugar Ray Robinson

    Jake LaMotta

    Marvin Hagler

    Dick Tiger

    Kelly Pavlik
     
    McGrain, Jul 2, 2008
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  2. Larson

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    SRR - 8.5
    LaMotta - 6.0
    Marvin Hagler - 8.5
    Dick Tiger - Haven't seen enough of him
    Pavlik - 9.0
     
    Larson, Jul 2, 2008
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  3. fists of fury

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    Sugar Ray Robinson...8.5/10

    Jake LaMotta...5.5/10

    Marvin Hagler...8/10

    Dick Tiger...8/10

    Kelly Pavlik...need to see more. I've only seen the second Taylor fight.
     
    fists of fury, Jul 3, 2008
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  4. Ezzard

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    Robinson
    Pavlik
    Hagler
    Tiger
    La Motta
     
    Ezzard, Jul 3, 2008
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  5. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LaMotta has average power at best, probably even below average.
     
    Senya13, Jul 3, 2008
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  6. JohnThomas1

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    Hence everyone in the thread rating him lowest. Regardless of personal perception on numerical ratings nobody has actually stated he is a powerful puncher.
     
    JohnThomas1, Jul 3, 2008
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  7. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Robinson 8.8
    LaMotta 6.4
    Hagler 8.0
    Tiger 7.7
    * Pavlik 8.0
    *Has not faced the level of competition the others have fought.
     
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  8. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would think average power is 5 out of 10. 10 would be limited to Jackson or McClellan, with Fitz/Ketchel about 9, Pavlik 8, Robinson and Hagler 6.5, LaMotta and Greb 4, etc.
     
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  9. fists of fury

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    I think you're right. I'll amend my rating accordingly.
     
    fists of fury, Jul 3, 2008
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  10. McGrain

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    Good post.

    You really think that Fitz should be rated a level below Jackson though?

    I think I would dock Pavlik .5 also.
     
    McGrain, Jul 3, 2008
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  11. Unforgiven

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    Robinson 9
    Hagler 7
    Tiger 6
    LaMotta 5

    I haven't seen Pavlik.

    Nigel Benn would be a 10.
     
    Unforgiven, Jul 3, 2008
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  12. DINAMITA

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    I think Gerald McClennan was a more concussive 1-punch hitter than all of them.
     
    DINAMITA, Jul 3, 2008
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  13. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can't "forgive" Fitz for taking so long to finish Dempsey. I just can't see the Nonpareil taking more than a couple of rounds of such beating, at best, from Jackson or McClellan. 9 still respresents exceptional, very rare power.
     
    Senya13, Jul 3, 2008
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  14. Manassa

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    Terrible post. Hagler, 6.5? Bollocks.
     
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  15. McGrain

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    Nah, I'm happy with that. I would also have been happy with 7. I'd say 2-3 tiers above LaMotta and around 3 tiers below Jackson is spot on.
     
    McGrain, Jul 3, 2008
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