Rate the post-Eusebio featherweight champions

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think it's fair to say that Eusebio Pedroza was the last great featherweight champion - that is, his championship reign was great and made him great. Since then though, there have been some really, really interesting fighters boxing at the weight.

    From the underrated Barry McGuigan (somehow he became the mark for fighters who don't belong in the Hall of Fame) to the We Are Terminators card-holder Antonio Esparragoza (would clean house today) to the immortal Manny Pacquiao (who nevertheless was pre-prime and spent little time at the weight), we've had some very, very special guys run the featherweight wing of the fistic bighouse.

    So: organise the below fighters into two lists, identifying each list clearly - a "greatest" list, the list of the greatest fighters in the division first to last; and a second list, of who is the best at doing boxing, first to last. If you prefer just to do one list, that's great, but identify. But please no "combined lists" aka a greatest list except when a fighter I really like is appraised.

    Barry McGuigan (1986)
    Stevie Cruz (1986-1987)
    Antonio Esparragoza (1987-1991)
    Yong-Kyun Park (1991-1993)
    Eloy Rojas (1993-1996)
    Wilfredo Vazquez (1996-1998)
    Naseem Hamed (1998 - 2001)
    Marco Antonio Barerra (2001-2003)
    Manny Pacquiao (2003-2005)
     
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  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    I don’t know about ratings, but in terms of pure satisfaction, Barrera crushes them all. Fella delivered a life times worth in one fight.
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Manny Pacquiao
    Marco Antonio Barerra
    Naseem Hamed
    Barry McGuigan
    Antonio Esparragoza
    Yong-Kyun Park
    Wilfredo Vazquez
    Eloy Rojas
    Stevie Cruz
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    So **** that Manny is the last real champ.

    Nobody has settled it with a genuine top two dust up in the last 17 years, that's ****ing disgusting.
     
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  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What about Chris John ? Surely he deserves a mention, he holds a win over Juan Manuel Marquez, and made 18 defences didn't he ? Almost as many as Pedroza. Not the strongest opposition overall but then again neither was Pedroza's.
     
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    These are the champions, not the belt-holders.
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My bad but as for your original question I'll try and do list for you bit later.
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You can be the first! Georgie had a go but i'm not quite sure what he's up to with that one.
     
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  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would say H2H wise on who matches up the best overall my list would be....

    Manny Pacquiao
    Marco Antonio Barrera
    Naseem Hamed
    Antonio Esparragoza
    Barry McGuigan
    Wilfredo Vazquez
    Eloy Rojas
    Yong-Kyun Park
    Steve Cruz

    As for resumes i'll have another list for you tomorrow i need to have a think about that.
     
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  10. salsanchezfan

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    Pac
    Esparragoza
    Barrera
    Hamed
    Vasquez
    McGuigan
    Park
    Rojas
    Cruz
     
  11. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Compared to some of these fellas, Jorge Paez definitely needs to be included on this list.
     
  12. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Active Member Full Member

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    We've had a drought in Featherweight division for good 15 years now. I might get that wrong, but I think there might not have been a proper unification since Juan Manuel Marquez moved up? When Gamboa fought Salido, He only held secondary WBA title - that fight would not be sanctioned today under updated IBF rules.

    The fact that Juan Manuel Marquez vs Chris John is not considered a fight for lineal title comes down to some small technicalities and timing, I think.
    At the time Marquez still had 2 of the belts, then beat Polo - who arguably beat Harrison. John held WBA belt and by the time the fight between him and Marquez happend, Scott Harrison already fought his final fight as featherweight. I think the issue was He was still technically a champion and ranked above John? He had a scheduled fight with Joan Guzman on March 2006 that fell through as Harrison had some health issues, something related to teeth as I recall.

    PS: Sorry I can't answer the topic's main question, I'm not educated enough on the Featherweights from before 2000.
     
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  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Good stab that.
     
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  14. gustavo

    gustavo New Member Full Member

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    Is Fenech anywhere in the conversation here? Or was his work at '26 not of the same level of his bantam/super bantam stuff?
     
  15. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    When you put it that way, and put those names up, yes that's crap.