I told that only for my last post, you're now trying to change my sentences and their meaning. Yeah, keep going Liston fan-base mob, you lack argument and this is best you can do, attack for something I didn't do because of the lack of arguments and then when that doesn't work, you insult someone. Big bravo for ya all.
I agree with all of this, Doug was good guy but wotj qurstionable chin and too small for his own good like Bob Foster. He was not a real HW, and unlike Archie Moore and Ezzard, he was not a great LHW. That was Chuvalo only good win just like a fluke fight with Quarry.
Everyone who thinks different than you, Liston mob, is a cancer, and group of his fans attack me here when I say something they don't like. Am I a cancer or you, Liston mob? You again proved ya all to be biggest cancer on this forum. It was Lonsdale81 against 10 of you, and ya all couldn't prove your point with arguments.
Jones was stopped 3 times in 41 fights only Frazier ko'd him when he was 33. No3 in 62. No2 in 63.No10 in 64.No8 in 65. As a heavyweight Jones weight went from181lbs to 207lbs. Chuvalo was No9 in 63. No5 in64.No3 in 65.No8 in66.No 4 in68.no7 in70. Yeah we are all ganging up on you. WITH FACTS!
I never said he was weak guy, he was good boxer-puncher, and showed great skills against Ali, but that's about it. Had he fought Liston, he would ended Knocked out same way Cleveland Williams did.
Again, you just do insults when arguments and hating isn't working, it's shame not only for this forum but also for your age. Someone your age, should respect others people opinions without getting angry and acting as a child=swag.
I've just posted 2 sets of stats that contradict your claims. Respect has to be earned,when you earn it,you'll get it!
No,you said he was small .For the times in which he was boxing he wasn't. You said he had a suspect chin. He didn't.
He was small, he was a LHW same way Leotis Martin was. He didn't have a good chin, he never met a good puncher, and the first one he met, knocked him out. Chuvalo stopped him, Frazier knocked him out mid rounds, maybe he had a good chin for a lhw but not in HW division.
How did contradict your claims? You said my words don't hurt you, but you proceed to insult me and call me names? If that's not contradicting, what the hell is?
Martin was 6ft 1/2 in and 199lbs when he beat Liston ,you've been pulled up on this dozens of times. Martin had 36 fights 25 of them were at heavyweight. Jones had 41 fights 24 of them were at heavyweight. Yes you are stupid!
Just for Liston fight, but he started as 175 pounder and was in 170s and 180s for most of his fights. He started amateurs like MW and ended like LHW, he just bulked for Liston fight because he needed all the size he could get to beat Sonny.
Both started as LHW, and both started amateurs like MWs, only stupid here is you. They were no real HWs just LHWs and not big ones.