Rate the SuperSix in terms of power, chin and speed

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  1. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Haven't seen too much on Green, so i'm taken some guesses there. I'm doing this off the top of my head, so there are just tentative lists.

    In each category, the difference between #2 and #5 is only marginal. They're actually pretty close in these categories.

    Power
    I think Abraham clearly sticks out. The #2 spot could be anywhere between Froch, Green, Dirrel, and Kessler. I gave the #2 spot to Dirrel because he's the only one to knock down Abraham, who has always showed great durability.

    1. Abraham
    2. Dirrel
    3. Kessler
    4. Froch
    5. Green
    6. Ward


    Chin
    1. Kessler - as far as i know he's never been legitimately knocked down
    2. Abraham - has taken a lot of hard shots and fought for 8 rounds after his jaw did a piroutte. Only down briefly against Dirrel, and didn't seem seriously hurt
    3. Froch - good jaw
    4. Dirrel - dito, 90% of the times he goes down it's because of other reasons
    5. Ward - Not sure what to think of him, never saw him take a big punch, but he could well rank as high as #2. There's not a lot between them.
    6. Green - again, i don't know much about him, but Miranda had him down twice and he's somewhat untested otherwise

    Speed
    1. Ward - Kessler could barely touch him. His blatant headbutts and clinching helped as well, of course
    2. Dirrel - Everyone wins rounds against Abraham, but i've never seen Arthur lose the rounds so decisively and get beat up before he fought Dirrel
    3. Most of the time he's lulling you to sleep in that turtle shell, but when he opens up, his hands are actually very fast
    4. Green - I'm guessing here, based on a few highlights
    5. Kessler - good handspeed & combinations, could be ranked as high as #3
    6. Froch - no explanation needed
     
    ChrisPontius, Jun 12, 2010
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  2. Chris Hansen

    Chris Hansen Member Full Member

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    I pretty much agree with you except for a few minor changes.

    Power

    I definitely think Abraham has more power than anyone in this tournament, as he has displayed it with devastating KO's his whole career. I'd switch Kessler with Dirrel, but your list is spot on.

    Chin, I agree 100%

    Speed..

    I'd switch Dirrel with Ward however they are so close in speed either or would work..

    I also think Abraham is supremely underrated with his hand speed, thus my prediction with him Knocking out Froch within 10 rounds. We've seen Froch's defense and i'm not impressed at all, he also had trouble with dirrel (I thought he won) and was constantly getting peppered with shots all night. When Abe comes out of his shell he will land, and land with authority ending Froch's night early.
     
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  3. WesT

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    Power,Chin,Speed but you forget the most inportant things The psychical/The mental abilitys(heart, determination , confidence , etc) & their Boxing Skills (combos,accuracy,timing,footwork,reflexes,adaptability,mobility, defense, etc)
     
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  4. kk17

    kk17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Power

    1 Abraham
    2 Froch ( it's close between AA and Froch)
    3 Kessler (his power is underrated at the moment)
    4 Green(???)
    5 Direll(??)
    6 Ward

    Chin
    1 Froch ( a proven good chin)
    2 Kessler ( his chin is underrated but is seems he is vulnerable to the body)
    3 Abraham ( he was of balance vs Direll has a good defence and a good chin)
    4 Direll ( he slips so often maybe he is doing it to prevent a knockdown)
    5 Ward (???)
    6 Green (???)

    Speed
    1 Ward
    2 Direll
    3 Kessler ??
    4 Green ??
    5 Abraham
    6 Froch
     
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  5. WesT

    WesT Boxing Addict banned

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    Hey not fair why did you left Bute out? :'(
     
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  6. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    Everyone's underrating Green in terms of power imo.
     
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  7. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Power
    1. Abraham


    2. Froch
    3. Green
    4. Dirrell (Power cones with speed).
    5.Kessler
    6. Ward

    Speed
    1. Dirrell

    2. Ward
    3. Green
    4. Abraham
    5. Kessler
    6. Froch

    Chin
    1. Abraham
    2. Kessler
    3. Froch
    4. Ward
    5. Dirrell
    6. Green

    Heart
    1. Abraham/Froch
    3. Kessler
    4. Ward
    5. Green
    6. Dirrell

    punch versaility
    1. Ward
    2. Dirrell
    3. Abraham
    4. Kessler
    5. Green
    6. Froch

    Defense
    1. Abraham
    2. Dirrell
    3. Ward
    4. Kessler
    5. Green





    6. Froch
     
    Mordechai, Jun 12, 2010
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  8. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    Power

    1 Abraham
    2 Froch
    3 Kessler
    4 Green
    5 Direll
    6 Ward

    Chin
    1 Kessler
    2 Froch
    3 Abraham (unproven at this weight, although it would seem hes carried his durability up)
    4 Green
    5 Dirrell
    6 Ward

    Speed
    1 Ward
    2 Direll
    3 Abraham
    4 Kessler
    5 Green
    6 Froch
     
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  9. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    please explain how froch has less punch versatility than Abraham and Kessler??
     
    robpalmer135, Jun 12, 2010
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  10. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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  11. 12downfor10

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    I agree. froch has a huge range of punches, the fact that his technique is highly questionable doesn't detract from the variety he displays lol
     
    12downfor10, Jun 12, 2010
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  12. Machine

    Machine Active Member Full Member

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    Um, I don't think he is suggesting boxing involves only those three factors, he just chose to rank those particular ones.
     
    Machine, Jun 12, 2010
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  13. Machine

    Machine Active Member Full Member

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    Hmmm... I wonder why?
     
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  14. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it's more about his execution of his punches then his versatility:yep
    it's looks so slow and telegraphed that it's imo not as good as of abraham and kessler.
    but i love froch style, he goes all out for his fight, he is a real fighter
     
    Mordechai, Jun 12, 2010
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  15. Machine

    Machine Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah I guess you could call it a range of punches but it's difficult to categorise them as particular types of punches since they're just flying in from all over the place. He does have some fairly unique and effective moves though. Anyone who is that slow and having beaten the opposition he has is doing something pretty clever to land those punches.
     
    Machine, Jun 12, 2010
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