Rate the top 5 HW's resumes.

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  1. MrTombourineMan

    MrTombourineMan Торрейра хорошо. Full Member

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    I am a little confused at the question. Are you asking us to rank who has the best resume out of the widely agreed upon top five in the division? Or are you just flat out asking who owns the top five resumes regardless of H2H rankings?

    If you're asking the former I would say the top five is Joshua, Povetkin, Ortiz, Wilder, Parker, (in that order personally) and I would rank their resumes as Joshua, Povetkin, Parker, Ortiz, Wilder. Bearing in mind that I rate one great win over a volume of good ones.

    The first two are locked down; Povetkin has better depth than Joshua but nothing to trump his win over Wlad. Likewise Wilder has way better depth over Ortiz but I rate Ortiz's win over Jennings higher than anything on Wilder's resume. Separating Parker and Ortiz was difficult as I rate Takam circa 2016 and Jennings circa 2015 at a similar level, so I put Parker third based on his wins over Ruiz and Fury being better than whomever happens to be Ortiz's 2nd/3rd best wins.

    If you're straight up asking for the top 5 resumes it would probably be Joshua, Povetkin, Pulev, Parker, Ortiz. Pulev has KOs against prime Dimitenko, undefeated Ustinov as well as a decision against a Thompson coming off two wins against Price so he slips in ahead of Parker, pushing everybody else down one. Wilder is in my top 5, but I do not believe he has a top 5 resume.
     
  2. Mynydd

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    As with Wales's main claim to fame being how it's used as a unit of measurement ("every year an area of rainforest the size of Wales is felled in the Rio Negro area"), so Chisora's legacy is as an asset in other fighters' resumes. Has he ever actually won a fight? Or does he just exist to make other boxers look better?
     
  3. It's Ovah

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    Ortiz is getting into irrelevant status as well. I only reluctantly put him on.

    Most of those performances were years ago. A win over Chisora is the only thing he's done that's remotely relevant in the here and now. Might as well talk about Takam's resume if you include Pulev as a top fighter.
     
  4. Ilikeboxing

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    Rigo's best work was years ago, he's still the best fighter in his division. Pulev is still top 5 for me. His last great performance was against Chisora, He won that very clearly, so he's still above the likes of Whyte who many have in the top ten.
     
  5. The Akbar One

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    Can Parker even win a fight without bogus judging?
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    In the proper order.:deal:
    Povetkin
    Fury
    Joshua
    Wilder
    Pulev

    Runner's up.
    Parker
    Ortiz
     
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  7. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    This.

    Thank you. I like your list. Wilder doesnt crack my top 5 either.

    And he doesnt deserve a shot at AJ as much as Parker.
     
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  8. Boxingfan200

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    1:Joshua
    2:parker
    3:povetkin
    4:wilder
    5:eek:rtiz
     
  9. It's Ovah

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    If you want to put him in your top five then do so. I don't consider him a top five fighter based on his recent run of garbage collecting, and a win over Chisora is increasingly starting to look less praise-worthy as time goes on.
     
  10. Ilikeboxing

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    I'm surprised you never had him in the top 10. Top five I'd understand due to his inactivity, but to never have Kubrat Pulev in your top ten HW's during the past few years is confusing.
     
  11. It's Ovah

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    I didn't say I never had him in my top ten. I'm saying I don't currently have him there, or struggle to find a case for keeping him there. His win over Chisora is about the only noteworthy thing he's done in four years. I don't consider that acceptable for a top ten fighter and I see no reason to reward his dreadful pick of opposition simply because he's gone undefeated in that time. He's now looking to fight Fres Oquendo for some BS tricket belt, which would make him almost wholly irrelevant to the current HW scene.

    I'd rather reward fighters like Breazeale and Takam, who at least have the stones to mix it with the best despite coming up short. Pulev is just another paper tiger at this stage.
     
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  12. Ilikeboxing

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    Fair enough. I think Pulev beats the likes of Dom, Whyte, Takam for example with his elite jab. I always wanted to see Pulev vs Povetkin., That would be one hella of a good chess-match.
     
  13. It's Ovah

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    I think Pulev at his best might have given all of those major problems. Now though I'd easily back Povetkin to blow him away, and I'd heavily favour Takam as well. Since the loss to Wlad Pulev's gone off the rails big time.
     
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  14. Ilikeboxing

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    Looked fine to me in his Del Boy encounter. Jab was still there, you never lose a jab, you may lose your legs but jabs are there forever.
     
  15. It's Ovah

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    He's lost a lot of sharpness and grit. Pulev used to have nasty intentions and an unrelenting style. Now he's a sloppy jab n' grabber like a poor imitation of Wlad. That works against a certain level of opposition but it doesn't cut it at the highest level, which is why I suspect we haven't seen Pulev operating there for a while now.
     
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