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  1. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who is greater and what order would you place them

    Pavlik
    Kessler
    Kovalev
     
  2. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pretty easy.

    1. Kov
    2. Kessler
    3. Pavlik

    Despite how Kov's career ended, he still peaked higher and was more accomplished than the other two.

    And Kessler was better than Pavlik.
     
  3. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    cool and thanks! I kind of view all 3 of them on a similar line, and am just curious how others see them!
     
  4. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All wrong! Kelly Pavlik can drink more than the other 2 combined. Followed by Quitalev and then Kessler.
     
  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    I agree with this but I think Pavlik and Kessler are close and can be argued either was
     
  6. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I assume quoting @The Undefeated Lachbuster was mistake? But appreciate the feedback
     
  7. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Not to mention the quote is from another thread
     
  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Yeah, I'm in complete agreement of this. Should it be worth mentioning Kessler's win over Froch, after all it's easily the best win any of them have. I don't think it should mentioned though, for 3 reasons.
    #1, I don't think he won.
    #2, the loss was clearly avenged.
    #3, I felt Kovalev clearly beat Ward.
     
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  9. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1 I think he won
    2 I agree
    3 I felt Ward won

    but either way
    1 he won
    2 It was avenged
    3 Ward won

    is your pick based on your feelings or the real life results...not being overly critical as I would probably go
    Kovalev
    Pavlik/Kessler

    but I think there is little separating all 3 of them
     
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  10. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I take Pavlik

    Froch has stamina and toughness but nothing else

    Kessler is the typical Euro guy hyped to the hill who never delivered......and got absolutely clowned by Calslappy.

    The moment the Crusher did not face a tomatoe can he folded like a house of cards, got out hustled once and quit in the replay.
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Tbh the order imo doesn't change either way, but yes I'm going off real life results. I was saying that even with Kessler having the best win, Kova is still definitely my pick for #1.
     
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  12. Jel

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    Nothing much to add, except to say do you go on whether each was the man in their respective divisions?

    In which case, it’s Kovalev and Pavlik over Kessler, I’d say.
     
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  13. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    A little harsh on Froch? He had as tough a run of fights as anyone in the sport between 2008 and 2012. Sure, he lost a couple but avenged one of those. So, I’d add ‘a willingness to take on the best available’ as well as ‘an ability to improve in rematches’ as other attributes, at least.
     
  14. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kessler
    Kovalev
    Pavlik
     
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  15. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Kessler
    Kovalev

    Pavlik
    I have a very low opinion of Pavlik
     
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