Rate these 8 Super Heavyweights from best to worst

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  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rate these 8 Super Heavyweights (Bowe, Lewis, Wlad, Vitali, Tucker, Fury, Wilder, Joshua) from best to worst in each of boxing components:

    Speed -

    Strength -

    Power -

    Chin -

    Endurance -

    Work rate -

    Intelligence/Smartness -

    Clinching -

    Killer instinct -

    Dedication -

    Jab -

    Streight right hand -

    Right hook -

    Left hook -

    Right uppercut -

    Body punches -

    Punching in combinations -
     
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  2. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For me it's very hard to rank them by speed and strength, but I'll try to rank them in other boxing components:

    Power - 1. Wlad. 2.Wilder. 3.Lewis. 4.Bowe. 5.Joshua. 6.Vitali. 7.Tucker. 8.Fury

    Chin - 1.Vitali. 2.Bowe. 3.Tucker. 4.Joshua. 5.Wilder. 6.Lewis. 7.Wlad. 8.Fury

    Endurance - 1.Bowe. 2.Fury. 3.Vitali. 4.Wilder. 5.Wlad. 6. Tucker. 7.Lewis. 8.Joshua

    Work rate - 1.Bowe. 2.Vitali. 3.Fury. 4.Tucker. 5.Joshua. 6.Lewis. 7.Wlad. 8.Wilder

    Boxing Intelligence/Smartness - 1.Wlad. 2.Lewis. 3.Joshua. 4.Vitali. 5.Fury. 6.Tucker. 7. Wilder. 8.Bowe

    Clinching - 1.Lewis. 2.Wlad. 3.Fury. 4.Tucker. 5.Vitali. 6.Joshua. 7.Bowe. 8.Wilder

    Jab - 1.Wlad. 2.Lewis. 3.Bowe. 4.Fury. 5.Vitali. 6.Joshua. 7.Tucker. 8.Wilder

    Streight right hand - 1.Wilder. 2.Wlad. 3.Lewis. 4.Joshua. 5.Bowe. 6.Vitali. 7.Tucker. 8.Fury

    Right hook - 1.Wilder. 2.Lewis. 3.Joshua. 4.Wlad. 5.Bowe. 6.Vitali. 7.Tucker. 8.Fury

    Left hook - 1.Wlad. 2.Bowe. 3.Joshua. 4.Lewis. 5.Vitali. 6.Fury. 7.Wilder. 8.Tucker

    Right uppercut - 1.Bowe. 2.Lewis. 3.Joshua. 4.Vitali. 5.Fury. 6.Tucker. 7.Wilder. 8.Wlad

    Total points (the lesser is the better):

    1. Lewis - 38
    2-3. Wlad and Bowe - 39
    4. Vitali - 47
    5. Joshua - 50
    6. Wilder - 58
    7. Fury - 60
    8. Tucker - 65
     
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  3. dinovelvet

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    Boxing Intelligence/Smartness - 1.Wlad. 2.Lewis. 3.Joshua. 4.Vitali. 5.Fury. 6.Tucker. 7. Wilder. 8.Bowe

    The other areas are subjective but that's plain wrong.^

    Wlads fight IQ was extremely mediocre. He was pre-programmed to repeat the same tactic over and over and if the fight went off script he was totally clueless.

    An inexperienced novice Joshua with only 19 fights displayed a higher ring IQ when they fought.

    Tyson Fury had him figured out before the bell rang.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Got any evidence to prove that? Did Wlad ever knock anybody down with the jab like Lewis did with Morrison?

    Did Wlad ever buckle the knees of an opponent equal to Vitali Klitschko with a jab?
     
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  5. Big Ukrainian

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    I agree with you to certain extent. However I'm taking into account not only the smartness inside the ring, but also the smartness of developing and running the right training process and using your strength while hiding your weaknesses. If it was boxing IQ only, Fury would probably be #1.
     
  6. Big Ukrainian

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    How many times Wlad was outjabbed in a fight? Once - against taller and much younger Tyson Fury. Lewis was also outjabbed by younger and taller Vitali, but not only by him. He was also outjabbed by much shorter and older Ray Mercer and Frank Bruno.
     
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  7. Big Ukrainian

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    I'll add one more component that will change my rankings - Killer Instinct

    1.Wilder. 2.Bowe. 3.Joshua. 4.Lewis. 5.Vitali. 6.Tucker. 7.Wlad. 8.Fury

    Therefore, total points:

    1. Bowe - 41
    2. Lewis - 42
    3. Wlad - 46
    4. Vitali - 52
    5. Joshua - 53
    6. Wilder - 59
    7. Fury - 68
    8. Tucker - 71
     
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  8. dinovelvet

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    Wlad never fought any good jabbers apart from Fury. He got jabbed badly by a shot to absolute bits Ray Mercer and his face showed the evidence of it.
    Ray Merver wasn't even ranked and had no legs under him which makes it even worse.

    Lewis put jabbing clinics on against Tua and Morrison. Wlad would not be able to keep either of those guys on the outside with his jab and would be wrapped all over them like an octopus.
    Bowe and Lewis easily had a better jab than Wlad.
     
  9. SnatchBox

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    Tony Tucker UD AJ & Wilder
     
  10. Big Ukrainian

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    Wilder - very likely. Joshua - no. I'm pretty sure AJ would beat him.
     
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  11. Big Ukrainian

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    Another component - Dedication.

    1.AJ. 2. Wlad. 3.Vitali. 4.Wilder. 5.Lewis. 6. Tucker. 7.Bowe. 8.Fury.

    Therefore, total points:

    1. Lewis - 47
    2-3. Wlad and Bowe - 48
    4. AJ - 54
    5. Vitali - 55
    6. Wilder - 63
    7. Fury - 76
    8. Tucker - 77
     
  12. gdm

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    Based on Fury’s fight against 40yo wlad? What else Fury did to even be mentioned in this discussion?
     
  13. Nonito Smoak

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    Tyson Fury is no higher than second worst in every category...
     
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