Rate these defenses in order from best to worst

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  1. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    A very bad fight for Floyd yes, but is this how we will judge his whole career... Based off 1 fight alone???

    What about the fights where he fought against good offensive fighters and showed superb defense?? Guys who were throwing twice as many punches yet still landing far less?
     
  2. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    How do you think he does against Cotto?
     
  3. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Cotto by late stoppage or wide ud...

    Cotto is just a superior fighter IMO at 147, one who stylistically matches up quite well against Floyd. Floyd is at a natural disadvantage being the smaller man though.
     
  4. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    Nice. Quite a few good posters around here that take Cotto. I favor Cotto by close UD; I don't think theres any way Cotto stops Mayweather seeing as how PBF is always safety first and Cotto would have no objections to getting the decision. Either way though I don't think Mayweather is going to be active enough to win this one and Cottos quick stiff jab dictates most of the fight
     
  5. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    It's also a testament to the level of his opposition.

    Imagine an actual ELITE opponent against Mayweather. Replace Castillo with Chavez, what would happen?
     
  6. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll just do five (its only early here!)


    5# Wilfred Benitez
    4# Floyd Mayweather Jr
    3# Pernell Whitaker
    2# Roberto Duran
    1# Willie Pep
     
  7. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    Well considering Mayweather can outbox God I think Chavez is screwed. Same goes for Pryor, Arguello, Duran,,,,,etc :D
     
  8. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto's jab would be the main concern for Floyd I feel, but Cotto leaves himself open to much when throwing the big shots. I have studied the Gomez fight, but given the gulf in class I dont think it would tell us anything we dont already know, but look at the Mosley fight. When Cotto throws the left to the body it takes a long time to come back again and there is no shoulder to protect a counter right hand.

    This is just one flaw I've picked up on but there are a few others as well. I feel that Floyd would do enough to KO Cotto in the mid to late rounds countering his careless shots.

    I'm not taking anything away from Cotto and I'm not building Floyd up to be untouchable (I think De La Hoya circa 97-2000 beats him) but I just think Cotto would be too open for Mayweather at this stage. In twelve months though things could change as Cotto is still learning
     
  9. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Fair enough... I don't disagree about his competition. Although this thread is regarding defensive ability only, not overall ability. His flaw in the Castillo fight IMO wasn't getting hit to often, it was being too inactive, in both fights. Just my 2 cents!
     
  10. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    :think I will have to review his fights when I have some time and look for that :bbb :bbb :bbb
     
  11. pryorgatti

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    1. Pernell Whitaker
    2. Willie Pep
    3. Nicolino Locche
    4. Miguel Canto
    5. Wilfredo Benitez
    6. Winky Wright
    7. James Toney
    8. Bernard Hopkins
    9. Ivan Calderon
    10. Floyd Mayweather Jr
    11. Roy Jones Jr
     
  12. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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  13. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Roy never had a "defence".

    He had the speed to jump in and out of range before a guy could even get his shots off. Roy could never sit in the pocket and make someone miss. Look what he does when he's up against the ropes. He puts the ear muffs on with no head movement and just takes the shots.
     
  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    My ratings
     
  15. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    After a glance, this is what I came up with. Probably a few would be changed around given more time to think about it.

    Locche
    Pep
    Benitez
    Whitaker
    Mayweather Jr.
    Jones Jr.
    Calderon
    Hopkins
    Canto
    Toney
    Starling
    Wright
    Napoles
    Duran
    Leonard
    Ali
    Tyson
    Guzman
    Qawi