Rate these fighters: Tszyu, Arbachakov, Nazarov

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  1. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    He was past his peak by the time he turned pro.Wasn't he already well into his 30s?

    Legendary tache though.
     
    lora, Oct 10, 2012
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  2. Flea Man

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    Yep, there you have it.
     
    Flea Man, Oct 10, 2012
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  3. TheSouthpaw

    TheSouthpaw Champion Full Member

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    TheSouthpaw, Oct 11, 2012
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  4. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Watched Grigorian - Jakubowski & Clark today.

    No wonder Lora likes Arthur.

    Good movement, smooth style, very well-schooled kalule-fisted fighter.

    Grigorian certainly was a quality technician.


    Grigorian's title-winning fight versus Antonio Rivera sounds like an interesting bout.
    Grigorian was dropped in the last round but he got up and knocked Rivera out.
     
    Lester1583, Oct 11, 2012
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  5. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's a good barometer of the guy. He'd dig deep in there and was a real competitor & just how many fighters get the late stoppage wins anyway?
     
    zadfrak, Oct 11, 2012
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  6. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Artur Grigorian's childhood nickname was "Skeleton" cuz he was a very thin boy.

    Started boxing at the age of 11.
    24-11-1978 is the exact date of Artur's first day as a boxer.

    Sparred with Kostya and Orzubek as an amateur.

    He got his nickname "King" fighting in Germany in some kind of national amateur boxing league in 1992-1993 before he turned professional. 20 fights (19-1 (lost to Urkal)).

    Seriously injured his shoulder and had surgery after David Armstrong fight.

    He had another shoulder injury in the fight against Zegan and fought with one hand for 10 rounds.
    He had another surgery before the Freitas fight.
     
    Lester1583, Oct 12, 2012
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  7. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Yuri was excellent in the first Kittikasem fight but was slightly inexperienced.
    Just wasn't mentally ready to abandon his pure boxer-type approach if necessary.
    Stayed in a strict boxing mode too much for my liking.
    Although most probably it was the right thing to do.

    First knockdown in the 8th round of the Kittikasem rematch was excellent - picture perfect right going backwards.

    Richard "2 seconds" Steele really deserves a mention - fans of Meldrick Taylor would really enjoy watching Yuri-Kittikasem 2.
     
    Lester1583, Oct 25, 2012
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  8. Flea Man

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    Brutal stoppage...or lack thereof :lol:
     
    Flea Man, Oct 25, 2012
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  9. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

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    Did you ever get that fight Flea? Iv been hoping and praying to the boxing gods that you would post it.
     
    Vysotsky, Dec 30, 2012
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  10. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    No but I f'n will Is that what the PM was about?

    Will sort it :good
     
    Flea Man, Feb 13, 2013
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  11. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

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    :lol: :? I did try sending you a PM but your inbox was to full, how did you know?

    Yeah i would be in a state of boxing bliss if i ever got to see that rematch, was wondering if you ever aquired it. Thanks for responding...clairvoyantly no less :good
     
    Vysotsky, Feb 13, 2013
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  12. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    I couldn't find you but knew you'd posted in this thread so found it and saw the above post which I somehow missed! And assumed you were chasing it up.

    Let me get on it, it's easy to acquire just didn't get round to it :-(
     
    Flea Man, Feb 13, 2013
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  13. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Great post, great thread.
     
    Flea Man, Jan 27, 2015
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  14. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    A shame Grigorian's career went the way it did, with all the injuries and eventual cash in fight against Freitas when completely finished.

    For a few years, before the injuries wore him down, he had at least as much potential as Calzaghe to step out of the WBO grind and get some notable wins\make for some great fights.

    Always thought a the younger, fresh version circa when he first won the wbo belt would have been an awfully tought fight for lightweight Oscar.

    Oscar had the WBO belt for a while and i'd have looking to make that fight.oscar wasn't fully developed technically(not sure if he ever got there tbh) and was raw as a well rounded boxer-puncher there, mainly using his size, speed and left-hook to steamroll smaller fighters like Hernandez, Leija etc..but even against the smaller Molina, who was slicker and tougher mentally than those guys he really struggled to control things.

    Grigorian at that time had the toughness, poise and enough physical ability not to get steamrolled and the offensive ability to outland Oscar.

    Could have been a great fight, same as fights with Stevie Johnston and Mosley a bit later.So many good matchups missed in that 135 period.
     
    lora, Jan 27, 2015
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  15. Flea Man

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    Grigorian vs Johnston would've been great.
     
    Flea Man, Jan 28, 2015
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