Rate these great Bantamweights in order

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  1. Flea Man

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    Well he was robbed against Famechon in Australia. And as Harada scored 4 knockdowns to Famechon's one I'm sure you won't dispute that either Frank.
     
  2. PhillyPhan69

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    Joltin' Jeff
    Rose
    Canizales
    Harrera
    Castilio
    Martinez
     
  3. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No problem , so Harada beat Famechon in Australia but was KOd by Famechon in Japan :D

    Just like he was KOd by Medel in Japan only 2 outpoint him , deservedly or probably not in Japan .

    And 2 decisions , at least 1 of which a wrong decision , according 2 what i read , over a 7 years older and drained @ d weight himself Jofre 2 out of 2 in Japan .

    This is d substance which gr8ness is made from :yep .

    Still , i repeat , better than Lionel Rose , Orlando Canizales and Ricardo Lopez .
     
  4. PhillyPhan69

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    Boxrec rating system is a joke!

    ESB did a Bantam consensus and the results for these 6 were:

    11 Orlando
    12 Rose
    13 Harrera
    T 15 Castilio
    T 15 Chandler
    19 Martinez

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205064&page=5
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Where are the matinee wins for Chandler and Canizales to place them over Rafael and Jesus?! Don't get it, please educate me :good
     
  6. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ESB r8ing system is a worse joke !!
    try checking its consensus top 2 @ HW 4 example .

    4cing me 2 post n all time top 10 @ 118 based mainly on boxrecing which 4 me proved 2b a powerful tool only solidified by watching fights much more often than not , i'll do it now 4u :
    1. Eder Jofre
    2. Jorge Lujan
    3. Raul Perez
    4. Miguel Lora
    5. Chucho Castillo
    6. Rafael Herera
    7. Ruben Olivares
    8. Wayne McCullough
    9. Khaokor Galaxy
    10. Sung-Kil Moon


    I considered Pete Sandstol , Sixto Escobar , Joe Lynch , Joe Burman but who knows about them ? janitor ? if u know what i mean .

    so i went 4 only modern , and since it is always a surprisingly weak division compared 2 others in modern times i had 2 settle 4d Castillo , Herera , Olivares at least 4d time being ..

    i really get tempted 2 put Donaire despite his poor resume @ d weight due 2 Darchiniyan and his 112 can b regarded as n "old time" 118 , quite d same with Darchiniyan and some 115 lbers .

    Gaby Canizales might make it some day and is a definite top 20 .
    have 2 eat
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Please kill yourself.
     
  8. red cobra

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    Canizales
    Chandler
    Rose
    Herrera
    Castillo
    Martinez
    Having said that I've always liked Herrera.
     
  9. Sister Sledge

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    You should know better than to feed pirahnas.
     
  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Herrera was just brilliant in March of '72 in completely dominating, bloodying and dismantling Olivares for the full count...and this was near peak Olivares.
     
  11. Vockerman

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    Jeff Chandler
    Orlando Canizales
    Rafael Herrera
    Lionel Rose
    Rodolfo Martinez
    Chucho Castillo
     
  12. Flea Man

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    Seems 'the greatest' is either Chandler or Rose...for me Castillo was the 'best'.

    EDIT: Thinking about it'd probably have

    Chandler
    Canizales
    Martinez

    As the bottom three.
     
  13. Vockerman

    Vockerman LightJunior SuperFlyweigt Full Member

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    IBRO has only 2 of this group mentioned at all :( that seems a little wrong to me...

    1.Eder Jofre
    2.Panama Al Brown
    3.Ruben Olivares
    4.Pete Herman
    5.Manuel Ortiz
    6.Carlos Zarate
    7.George Dixon
    8.Terry McGovern
    9.Kid Williams
    10.Fighting Harada
    11.Joe Lynch
    12.Johnny Coulon
    13.Jeff Chandler
    14.Bud Taylor
    15.Sixto Escobar
    16.Jimmy Barry
    17.Frankie Burns
    18.Memphis Pal Moore
    19.Jose Becerra
    20.Lupe Pintor
    Just missing the cut: Pete Sanstol, Khaosai Galaxy, Charlie Phil *********, Jimmy Carruthers, Harry Jeffra, Jeff Fenech, Owen Moran, Lou Salica, Raul Raton Macias, Alfonso Zamora, Bushy Graham, Alphonse Halimi, Orlando Canizales and Abe Goldstein.

    And I did my list before I even thought to look at this....
     
  14. Flea Man

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    Crikey, is that their list? Thanks for that.

    Chandler is way too high there.
     
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