Well he was robbed against Famechon in Australia. And as Harada scored 4 knockdowns to Famechon's one I'm sure you won't dispute that either Frank.
No problem , so Harada beat Famechon in Australia but was KOd by Famechon in Japan Just like he was KOd by Medel in Japan only 2 outpoint him , deservedly or probably not in Japan . And 2 decisions , at least 1 of which a wrong decision , according 2 what i read , over a 7 years older and drained @ d weight himself Jofre 2 out of 2 in Japan . This is d substance which gr8ness is made from :yep . Still , i repeat , better than Lionel Rose , Orlando Canizales and Ricardo Lopez .
Boxrec rating system is a joke! ESB did a Bantam consensus and the results for these 6 were: 11 Orlando 12 Rose 13 Harrera T 15 Castilio T 15 Chandler 19 Martinez http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205064&page=5
Where are the matinee wins for Chandler and Canizales to place them over Rafael and Jesus?! Don't get it, please educate me :good
ESB r8ing system is a worse joke !! try checking its consensus top 2 @ HW 4 example . 4cing me 2 post n all time top 10 @ 118 based mainly on boxrecing which 4 me proved 2b a powerful tool only solidified by watching fights much more often than not , i'll do it now 4u : 1. Eder Jofre 2. Jorge Lujan 3. Raul Perez 4. Miguel Lora 5. Chucho Castillo 6. Rafael Herera 7. Ruben Olivares 8. Wayne McCullough 9. Khaokor Galaxy 10. Sung-Kil Moon I considered Pete Sandstol , Sixto Escobar , Joe Lynch , Joe Burman but who knows about them ? janitor ? if u know what i mean . so i went 4 only modern , and since it is always a surprisingly weak division compared 2 others in modern times i had 2 settle 4d Castillo , Herera , Olivares at least 4d time being .. i really get tempted 2 put Donaire despite his poor resume @ d weight due 2 Darchiniyan and his 112 can b regarded as n "old time" 118 , quite d same with Darchiniyan and some 115 lbers . Gaby Canizales might make it some day and is a definite top 20 . have 2 eat
Herrera was just brilliant in March of '72 in completely dominating, bloodying and dismantling Olivares for the full count...and this was near peak Olivares.
Seems 'the greatest' is either Chandler or Rose...for me Castillo was the 'best'. EDIT: Thinking about it'd probably have Chandler Canizales Martinez As the bottom three.
IBRO has only 2 of this group mentioned at all that seems a little wrong to me... 1.Eder Jofre 2.Panama Al Brown 3.Ruben Olivares 4.Pete Herman 5.Manuel Ortiz 6.Carlos Zarate 7.George Dixon 8.Terry McGovern 9.Kid Williams 10.Fighting Harada 11.Joe Lynch 12.Johnny Coulon 13.Jeff Chandler 14.Bud Taylor 15.Sixto Escobar 16.Jimmy Barry 17.Frankie Burns 18.Memphis Pal Moore 19.Jose Becerra 20.Lupe Pintor Just missing the cut: Pete Sanstol, Khaosai Galaxy, Charlie Phil *********, Jimmy Carruthers, Harry Jeffra, Jeff Fenech, Owen Moran, Lou Salica, Raul Raton Macias, Alfonso Zamora, Bushy Graham, Alphonse Halimi, Orlando Canizales and Abe Goldstein. And I did my list before I even thought to look at this....