Rate these guys in order: Mosley, Marquez, Pacquiao, de la hoya?

Ivan Calderon could have beaten that version of Oscar on any given day of the week, and I think Ivan did whoop oscar in sparring along with Valero and Ortiz I believe in preparation for that fight... He was a walking dead zombie that nite.

 

Right, so disrespectful. Like lil tiny Pac gets no credit for it. It was a fluke, like the rest of Pac's time north of 135?

 

Can we stay on Oscar DE LA Hoya?:think

 

Oh and Pac gets credit for it, not as much as Floyd.. but he gets it.

 

IMO Marquez win over Pacquaio is at least 2 times bigger than Mosleys over DLH who was coming from the Trinidad defeat. And the Barrera win bigger than the Margarito due to Barrera being a ATG and was not prime but still very good at that time, Vargas and Mayo we're shot to pices when Mosley fought them. Hell the Casamayor and Juan Diaz are better wins are better than Mosleys win over Mayo. But that's just my opinion.

 

So your logic means jmm is above pac, no arguement can be made ? All because he's better h2h doesn't always mean he's the greater fighter.

H2h jmm is clearly greater than pac , but pac can and had beat plenty of fighters jmm simply couldn't ever beat.

Your logic is too flawed to debate after what I pointed out


Out of those 4 I'd have say,
Ssm and pac are tied at 1 then odh and jmm are tied together.

Fyi: 2nd odh v ssm fight has huge asterisks next to it because 1 odh won it and 2 ssm was admittedly on PEDs...

 

You think JMM beat Barrera?

 

Pacquaio fought a lot of CW'S so there's always going to be a "what if" in regards to his career at 147.. DE LA Hoya didn't lose the fight with tito in the public eye, and was in emasculated shape and in the prime of his life entering that fight with shane.. I gotta rank oscar ahead of Pac imo..JMM and Mosley is debatable.


This response wasn't meant for you...

 

Pacquaio fought a lot of CW'S so there's always going to be a "what if" in regards to his career at 147.. DE LA Hoya didn't lose the fight with tito in the public eye, and was in emasculated shape and in the prime of his life entering that fight with shane.. I gotta rank oscar ahead of Pac imo..JMM and Mosley is debatable.

 

That was a decent and pretty evenly fought fight.
My memory is telling me jmm was dominating the beginning until he went for the ko and was almost put next to pac in his own coma.

Cudos to jmm for getting up (barely) and decently regrouping to finish the fight still trying to win. Well, he was in survival mode for the middle of the fight.

If it was a better fighter I'd rewatch again, but I don't remember it being above decent. Which is still probably good, I'll watch tmw morning while pretending to work hard

 

Yes close but clear.

 

At their prime meeting at 135, the result of the tournament:

1. Shane Mosley
2. Oscar De La Hoya
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Juan Manuel Marquez

 

JMM
Pax
Oscar
Mosley

 

I had Barrera winning a close but clear decision.

 

Pac, Marquez, DLH, Mosley but I could see DLH ranked ahead of Marquez. They are all very good, although Mosley is a bit less good than the others.