Rate these HW champions' punching power

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  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    From 1 to 10 (1 means completely pillow-fisted, 10 means the hardest possible hitter)

    Liston
    Ali
    Frazier
    Foreman
    Holmes
    Tyson
    Holyfield
    Bowe
    Lewis
    Vitali
    Wlad
     
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  2. Unforgiven

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    They all hit pretty hard.

    Liston 10
    Ali 7
    Frazier 8
    Foreman 10
    Holmes 7
    Tyson 9
    Holyfield 7
    Bowe 9
    Lewis 10
    Vitali 8
    Wlad 10
     
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  3. Jester

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    Liston: 10
    Ali: 6
    Frazier: 8
    Foreman: 10
    Holmes: 6
    Tyson: 10
    Holyfield: 7
    Bowe: 8
    Lewis: 10
    Vitali: 8
    Wlad: 10
     
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  4. impacted

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    Riddick Bowe, real talent, never a puncher in the same league as Tyson, Foreman or Liston. Can you imagine Tyson taking two free bare knuckle shots to Larry Donald's jaw and Larry not even going backwards? Me neither.
     
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  5. tommytheduke

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    Liston - 10
    Ali - 5,66
    Frazier - 10
    Foreman - 10
    Holmes - 4
    Tyson - 10
    Holyfield - 6,33
    Bowe - 8,66
    Lewis - 9,83
    Vitali - 9,75
    Wlad - 8,83
     
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  6. janitor

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    This is about right.

    I think Frazier is more an 8.5/9, and Tyson is a 9.5.
     
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  7. mcvey

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    Liston 10
    Ali 5
    Frazier 7
    Foreman10
    Holmes 6
    Tyson 9
    Holyfield 6
    Bowe 8
    Lewis 9.5
    Vitali 8
    Wlad 9
     
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  8. Unforgiven

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    I can agee with those adjustments. :good
     
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  9. The Long Count

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    Liston 10
    Ali 6
    Frazier 7
    Foreman 10
    Holmes 7
    Tyson 10
    Holyfield 7.5
    Bowe 8
    Lewis 9
    Vitali 8
    Wlad 10
     
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  10. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good responses so far, especially serious post from Boxed Ears which was unexpected :happy

    I also always thought that Holyfield has very good power, considering that he dropped Qawi, Bowe, Mercer, Tyson - guys who could take a punch.

    Mine list is -
    Liston 9.5
    Ali 6.5
    Frazier 8
    Foreman 10
    Holmes 6.5
    Tyson 9.5
    Holyfield 7.5
    Bowe 8.5
    Lewis 9
    Vitali 8
    Wlad 9.5
     
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  11. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Earnie Shavers was an 11.
     
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  12. tommytheduke

    tommytheduke Active Member Full Member

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    That's true, and so were Rocky Marciano and Max Baer.
     
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  13. janitor

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    Max Baer was a 10.5.

    Rocky Marciano was a 9.5.
     
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  14. 70sFan

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    Liston 9
    Ali 7
    Frazier 8
    Foreman 10
    Holmes 7
    Tyson 9
    Holyfield 7
    Bowe 8
    Lewis 9
    Vitali 8
    Wlad 9
     
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  15. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    There is a lot of consensus here. Boxed ears seems very close to precisely right to me.

    Many here know we are not talking about effectiveness, combinations, accuracy, volume...
    Which would elevate already high guys like Frazier a bit too high.
    Rocky, Tyson a bit higher at 9 max.

    Baer & Golata maybe 9.5, & there are likely a bunch of non champ quality guys 9/9.5 with their best punch. Ruddock, Morrison, Smith maybe, Tua...

    Lyle, Williams, others a 9 or just about.

    Shavers an 11? I buy that.

    Limited skills, endurance, accuracy, chin, but tremendous punch leverage, looks like he combined heavy/huge hands & arms for his size with great explosiveness.
     
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