Rate these PPV's 1 to 8 on how well they'd sell if they all happen before the end of the year

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  1. Mark McBurney

    Mark McBurney Member Full Member

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    You've done this before and it seems people do want to discuss it, so perhaps you're the odd one out?
     
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  2. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it would in this order of popularity

    Canelo-GGG- 6th
    Joshua-Povetkin - 1st
    Groves-Smith- 7th
    Bellew-usyk- 4th
    Wilder-Fury- 3rd
    Whyte-Chisora II- 2nd
    Khan-Brook- 5th
    Frampton-Warrington- 8th
     
  3. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In the UK:

    1. Joshua v Povetkin
    2. Khan v Brook
    3. Fury v Wilder
    4. Whyte v Chisora II
    5. Bellew v Usyk
    6. Canelo v GGG
    7. Frampton v Warrington
    8. Groves v Smith

    Joshua will outsell everyone. I think Brook v Khan will do surprisingly well despite being past it's sell by date, Fury v Wilder will do well but being 3-5am will have a negative effect over here.

    Whyte/Chisora and Bellew/Usyk are about the same level but no casuals know who Usyk is and I think Whyte will benefit of being a potential Joshua fight.

    The rest will bomb, Frampton v Warrington isn't PPV, Canelo v GGG is at 5am between a Mexican and a Kazakh and Groves v Smith is in Saudi Arabia on ITV where no one hears about it happening.
     
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  4. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    Out of interest mate, are you from Leeds.?
     
  5. Twentyman

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    I know i’m gonna sound like @Jurgen but these PPV’s are getting a bit out of hand now. Imo a few of them fights could be made without ppv. Whyte-Chisora would be an absolute joke, I like them both but the money to pay them could surely be generated by normal means.
    Groves and Smith shouldn’t be PPV. It’s getting pretty much paid for by the Saudi’s.
    GGGvAlvarez is in middle of the night between two foreign fighters.
    I could go on, but PPV should be for the fights that can’t happen without that extra financial boost. It’s exploiting a few hundred thousand genuine hardcore fans.
    What undermines it all is the fact that if you shut your eyes and ears till a few hours after the event, you can watch it for nothing on YouTube anyway.

    Moan over.
     
  6. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Appealing to consensus, the hallmark of the weak minded. I'm posting my opinion you ****wit, pipe down.
     
  7. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    report directly to sky HQ for your re "education" son
     
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  8. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    You are coming round mate :ARMS1:
     
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  9. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Proper PPV numbers

    1. Joshua-Povetkin:
    Obvious. All the other PPV's hurt it a little though.

    Gets: 800k - 1mil
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    Good numbers but nothing special

    2. Khan-Brook:
    Doesn't do massive numbers that you'd expect, but being on sky and under Eddie pushes it over Wilder-Fury by a decent margin.

    Gets: 350k - 550k

    3. Wilder-Fury
    Being on the BT Box Office platform will give it a tough time. Won't get the same level of hype and advertisement as a matchroom/sky card so that's why I think Khan-Brook beats it.

    Gets: 300k - 400k

    4. Bellew-Usyk
    Again, Bellew is now quite well known. Usyk not as much, but Bellew will give it some okay numbers, and I also wouldn't be surprised if it beats Wilder-Fury by a small margin.

    Gets: 250k - 350k

    5. Canelo-GGG
    This is BT's first PPV and neither fighter is British. But they are well known enough to get okay numbers.

    Gets: 200k
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    Weak but sells some

    6. Frampton-Warrington
    The only reason this fight sells as PPV is Frampton's popularity in Northern Ireland which will give it some pulling power. But in all honesty it shouldn't be a PPV. It's in a weird position where the matchup deserves PPV but the names and the platform isn't strong enough to do it.

    Gets: 100k - 150k
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    Fails

    7. Whyte-Chisora II
    This should never ever sell as a PPV, ever. But being under matchroom and on sky box office would give it a nice boost, enough to sell 50k. Simply being on the sky platform allows it to edge the failure that is Groves-Smith...

    Gets: 50k - 100k

    8. Groves-Smith
    This will struggle more than it should do. ITV Box Office hasn't produced outstanding numbers so far. But I think ITV has huge potential and I think they will get some of the advertisement right. For example, they regularly advertise fights during their England football games, and if there's one place you want to advertise a fight, it's there. It'll still fail drastically though.

    Gets: 50k
     
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  10. Patter983

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    Groves v Smith way to high I would say no way that does more than the two sky ppv fights you have put underneath.

    1. AJ v Pov
    2. Khan v Brook
    3. Whyte v Del Boy ( after both there last performances )
    4. Wilder v Fury
    5. Bellew v Usyk
    6. Canelo v GGG
    7. Smith v Groves
    8. Frampton v Warrington
     
  11. Anne-Marie

    Anne-Marie Member banned Full Member

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    Didn't Groves v Eubank do great on the same channel?
     
  12. caligula4

    caligula4 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think Groves Eubank did great at all. My casual friends had no idea it was on due to lack of any proper promotion and plugging, and due to the awful format I had to resort to listening to it on Talk sh..port radio.

    I'm baffled that an ITV4 can exist these days, yet fights are still inaccessible. A bit of a rant, but I'm a BT subscriber and customer, yet living rurally it still isn't available on the TV, so I'm left with a poor lagging stream and sat on a phone or computer. Jealous of the ITV/BBC says that the older generation had available. Too many fights these days are simply not box office worthy and either isolate real fans or can't get the public excited for due to a previous (lesser fights) lacking exposure on accessible platforms.
     
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  13. SambaKing7

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    Groves Smith doing more than Wilder/Fury? I'll have whatever you are smoking please.
     
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  14. Patter983

    Patter983 Active Member Full Member

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    not sure if the numbers but if they did good numbers the main reason for that surely is Chris Eubank. Callum Smith is not exactly a household name . Imo it will do poor numbers
     
  15. PaddyGarcia

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    Welcome to The Resistance my friend.
     
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