Rate Tommy Morrisons power

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  1. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always consider him a top hitter. Now saying that, he was not on the level of the elite guys in regards to skill ete.
     
  2. Journeyman92

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    The thought invoking question that never seemingly gets answered does Tommy Morrison hit hard or really hard? You’d think this forum would’ve created a chart by now or something for this kinda FAQ.
     
  3. catchwtboxing

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    The fact that a barely fringe guy can do that kind of damage to his speaks for itself, and probably speaks to his physical deterioration through drug use. There is also the Williams fight, which I cited...the Bent fight, when he was outgunned by a guy who already hd brain damage....

    Thomas was at the end of a career marred by heroin and coke use. He was as physically deteriorated as they come, and might have very well perceived it that way. But it was the perception of a shell of a man who had suffered though knock-outs and drug addiction.

    Again, some people have permanent effects from post-concussion syndrome. Meaningless fight and metric.
     
  4. Glass City Cobra

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    Shavers broke his hand fighting Ron Stander, who was by all accounts a D level fighter at best. It happens. Morrison breaking his hand against a low level guys doesn't remotely suggest his power was overrated.

    I will not defend the Bent fight but you're talking about chin, which is a totally different conversation. Again we can cite boxers such as Shavers, Cooney, Hearns, etc who had lethal power but weren't very durable.

    No one said Thomas was prime, but to him the punches were worse than what he felt against other noteworthy bangers such as Tyson, Witherspoon, Berbick, etc. Thomas was on and off heroin and various other drugs since he was like 14. All you're doing is downplaying because it doesn't fit your agenda.

    More yawn worthy downplaying. Morrison fought Ruddock AFTER his brutal KO losses to Bent and Mercer but I notice it's funny you give him no passes for that but give half a dozen excuses for Thomas, Ruddock, etc. Somehow they were damaged goods but Morrison was fine and thus it doesn't mean anything when measuring KO power? Knockouts only count if the opponent is at his absolute best? If you count the mileage for both, it was a decent KO win for Morrison and he even got off the floor to beat Ruddock in an entertaining slugfest showcasing unusual heart and determination.
     
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  5. catchwtboxing

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    but it conjunction with all of the other fights I have cited, it would seem to indicate so.

    No, I am talking about power. He hit a brain-damaged fighter with multiple punches to no effect before getting blasted himself.

    Both fights were shells of them former selves, Ruddock from multipel brutal knockouts, and Thomas from knockouts and heroin use.
     
  6. Glass City Cobra

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    Not really...? How the hell is stopping an opponent with a busted hand an indication someone doesn't have good power? He dropped him twice.

    The fight lasted 1 minute and 33 seconds :lol: How many serious solid blows do you think he could've landed in that time frame?

    Do you want me to cite examples for literally every fighter regarded as a serious "ATG puncher" failing to stop a damaged goods opponent or taking a long time to finish them off?

    Morrison arguably suffered more damage than Ruddock did. Just say you don't like Morrison so we can move on because your criteria is bizarre. His power was very obvious and eye catching.
     
  7. catchwtboxing

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    He didn't break the hand until the fifth, and it was his RIGHT hand at that, not his power hand. I would say the life and death struggle against a barely fringe guy, in conjunction with other efforts, suggests overrated power.

    You appanrently didn;t see it, because Morrison came out guns blazing, and Bent, WHO ALREAY HAD BRAIN DAMAGE, just absorbed them.

    Thomas and Ruddock were badly damags goods. There is no way to soften this one.
     
  8. Glass City Cobra

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    It's understandable to have a life and death struggle with a broken jaw and hand. He still won despite the two severe handicaps. Most guys would lose, and even more would've quit but you're framing this as a negative somehow.

    For ONE MINUTE and 33 GRUELING seconds!

    As was Morrison whose body was a wreck after recovering from drug abuse, broken hands, and being brutally KOd by Mercer, Bent, etc all prior to Ruddock. You haven't extended even a smidgen of the understanding to Morrison that you've given to his opponents. You're biased and are pretending to just call it down the middle. Do you think Morrison was some spring chicken in the Ruddock fight?
     
  9. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Morrison had a ton more surgeries in addition to those hands. Incredible he lasted like he did.
     
  10. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Ok, he was on PEDs - just like all the other elites. Or will we lie to ourselves some have never even seen PEDs?

    Talking only about his power - let's say above average, he was a hard hitter. Poor opposition, true, but that reflects on his legacy and overall level as a boxer.
     
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