Rate your top 30 MW during 2000-2016

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  1. Selina

    Selina Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sergio had five wins against (my) top 30 MW (2000-2016) but Williams beat only Wright, but Wright didn´t really beat anyone at 160. At first I put Wright much higher because he is really good but after researching, I had to move him down.. The thing is, I just ranked those fighter for their achievements during that time span. Therefore it´s not an exact rating of skills. But I believe achievements indicates skill levels up to a point..

    For me, maybe even more interesting is, how to rate top 10-30 - Who did I forgot?

     
    Selina, Jan 13, 2016
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  2. Selina

    Selina Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So Williams #23 and Jantuah gets dropped. Winky beat Trinidad (120-107, 119-108, 119-108) so there is quite a big difference in levels. Maybe he should be higher #11?

     
    Selina, Jan 13, 2016
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  3. drenlou

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    I don't see Gary lockett on that list..
     
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  4. Selina

    Selina Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :D Gary tells a lot about Pavliks record.. (Add Rubio on the list)

    Are you implaying he could compete with

    22. Howard Eastman (0)
    23. Paul Williams (1)
    24. Khoren Gevor (1)
    25. Amin Asikainen (1)
    26. Anthony Mundine (1)
    27. Darren Barker (1)
    28. Sebastian Sylvester (1)
    29. Mariano Carrera (0)
    30. Mathew Macklin (0)


     
    Selina, Jan 13, 2016
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  5. drenlou

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    Eastman and asikainen for sure. Maybe everyone on that list except p-will for that matter. Also Winky was a Jr mW who made his mW run with a win over Tito and a draw against Taylor, so his mW run was nothing special. Js.. And Kofi Jantuah?
     
    drenlou, Jan 13, 2016
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  6. Selina

    Selina Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have to disagree with you on Locket. Asikainen was a beast (limited of course but still) when he was at his prime (KO Sylvester, Campas). He had reach, size, power and that great left hook - he had always a punchers chance. He had an offer from Taylors camp but his manager wanted him to wait better offer.. What a mistake. Instead he outgrew and wasn´t his best anymore against Gevor.

    Locket had nothing, no power, no size, no reach, nothing. IMO Locket is John Duddy level, domectic level at best.

     
    Selina, Jan 13, 2016
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  7. Selina

    Selina Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What about Javier Castillejo? He won WBA belt against Sturm and beat Mariano Carrera. He also lost to both of them later on..
     
    Selina, Jan 13, 2016
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  8. drenlou

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    He would be over Jantuah IMO.
     
    drenlou, Jan 13, 2016
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  9. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great list!
     
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  10. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    H2H GGG is a lock for number 1. If GGG was around in Hopkins day..you would of never heard of Hopkins. Hopkins would of got a career ending beating.
     
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  11. Selina

    Selina Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lets not carry away :) Bhop is one tough SOB, he took a beating from Kovalev like a man. Still after 2000 he didn´t do that much at 160 IMO. Thats something that haters somehow forget. Actually, top 10 pretty much shows how many good wins someone can achieve even in theory. Only fights that took place between top 10 MW were

    Bhop vs. Taylor 1&2
    Taylor vs. Pavlik
    Pavlik vs. Martinez
    Martinez vs. Murray
    Sturm vs. Murray
    Golovkin vs. Murray

    Btw. Can´t believe what a luck Murray had - two robberies and one title fight against Golovkin. He should have won title at some point..

     
    Selina, Jan 13, 2016
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  12. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Hagler is still in the said period he'll beat them all.

    BTW, I have no list.
     
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  13. QuadrupleG

    QuadrupleG MAZAFAKA Full Member

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    Just agenda ?
     
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  14. Deslizer

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    Winky beat Mosley (who took the belts from DLH), schooled Trinidad, was robbed against Taylor and deserved at least a draw against Hopkins.

    For me, Winky is at least Top8 on that list.
     
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  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    1. Bernard Hopkins
    2. Sergio Martinez
    3. Kelly Pavlik
    4. Jermain Taylor
    5. Arthur Abraham

    Another good win or two GGG breaks the Top 5.
    6. Gennady Golovkin.

    Winky almost made the Top 5 but Tito wasn't at MW long enough.
     
    CST80, Jan 14, 2016
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