Rating Jermain Taylor in the top 20 P4P still is...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Amsterdam, Feb 4, 2008.


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  1. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    Wow you have high standards, I didn't know you considered a "B" level fighter one of the 15 best in the world. :lol: :lol:
     
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  2. michael 901

    michael 901 His ass is tired Full Member

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    yes he whipped arce, but mijares drew with a certain luis maldonaldo not so long ago.Ranking that dick # 11 is absurd too. smart ass
     
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  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Juan Diaz in the top 10 or near it.

    Joan Guzman near the top 10.

    Cotto is where he should be at 5-6.

    Israel and Rafael are where they ought to be.

    And honestly, if Hopkins was removed out of the top 5, it wouldn't be that bad.

    Your 20-40 is what's really off, how can Chad Dawson be under Abraham and Daisuke Naito and Vernon Forrest?

    Think about that.
     
    Amsterdam, Feb 5, 2008
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  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    You have to take resume and ability into 1 in ranking fairly, he'll be out of the list soon enough and if my list was on H2H ability, he wouldn't even be in the top 25.

    However, with his 2007 run, even if I think it's overrated, I can't leave him out just yet without being biased. Sometime B levels just get lucky and creep up on you, but they are always disposed of in due time.
     
    Amsterdam, Feb 5, 2008
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  5. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think you're insane if you think JT is a legit top 10 P4P guy.

    He didn't "beat" Hopkins twice. He got 2 hotly disputed decisions. And anyone watching the JT/Pavlik fight will tell you how horrible the judges' scores were when Pavlik KOed JT. JT would've gotten another gift decision had the fight went the distance.

    And beating Spinks and Ouma at 160 means very little. Again, i like JT and he's accomplished some things but there is no way he's a top 10 P4P fighter.
     
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  6. Shaolin Box

    Shaolin Box Respect Full Member

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    I agree, he didnt look good at all but i think he didnt look good in any of his fights with Stewart so lets see how he is in this next fight.
     
    Shaolin Box, Feb 5, 2008
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  7. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Do you think dropping Steward will make a difference?:think
     
    Amsterdam, Feb 5, 2008
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  8. Tyson180

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    so he lost a fight :patsch big deal. you can't win them all. that's the problem with most boxing fans anymore -- one loss, even in a good fight, and someone is suddenly trash.
     
    Tyson180, Feb 5, 2008
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  9. Shaolin Box

    Shaolin Box Respect Full Member

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    maybe, not sure. but he wasnt the same fighter when he had steward in his corner. not sure why but he just didnt look himself
     
    Shaolin Box, Feb 5, 2008
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  10. Shaolin Box

    Shaolin Box Respect Full Member

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    :good
     
    Shaolin Box, Feb 5, 2008
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  11. michael 901

    michael 901 His ass is tired Full Member

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    admittedly i never saw dawson or naito, but from looking at boxrec dawson does not have many notable wins.i,ve seen adamek and harding fight and they are not exactly world beaters,adamek came out of nowhere to beat briggs twice in extremely close fights.You don't have chris john in your top 20 i guess you will agree that jmm was robbed badly.
    we'll see who is right on the original subject on february 16.i will rub it in when taylor is victorious amsterdam.
     
    michael 901, Feb 5, 2008
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  12. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Boxrec warrior :yep
     
    196osh, Feb 5, 2008
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  13. Shaolin Box

    Shaolin Box Respect Full Member

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    btw - anyone paying for this fight? i dont plan on it, so i'm trying to get a friend to pick it up. **** it, i just bought PBF and Jones, i can't do this every month. ****ing cable is a rip off
     
    Shaolin Box, Feb 5, 2008
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  14. michael 901

    michael 901 His ass is tired Full Member

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    **** you i saw adamek and harding afew times and neither is a great shakes,and they are dawsons two best wins.What the **** did you mean by boxrec warrior anyway i am a serial boxing fan and have cases of dvds of all the best fighters from the last 30 years
     
    michael 901, Feb 5, 2008
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  15. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    :rofl

    Dont get so wound up. Just dont say stuff like, well from these fights I see on boxrec I connclude x, y and z. It is not right and does not let you know how the fights are won/played out.
     
    196osh, Feb 5, 2008
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