Rating the All Time Heavyweights in 10 Categories

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  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think 6 or 7 for his durability is about right I think 8 is a bit too high he showed some toughness in fights but not enough to rate him 8 for me.

    I've always thought Lewis's footwork wasn't the best am I being harsh with 6 ? It's just i remember Lewis's footwork not being his strongest attribute.

    If you do anymore I'll compare my list to yours we've been mostly similar in alot of our answers.
     
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  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Yup. I will do more soon. Maybe tomorrow.
     
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    Wladimir Klitschko:

    Power - 10
    Physical attributes - 10
    Handspeed, combination punching, accuracy - 8 (great hand speed and accuracy, combination punching not so good - that's why it's 8)
    Footwork - 9 (I think Wlad had amazing footwork for such a big guy)
    Defense - 8
    Durability - 5,5
    Heart - 9
    Killer instinct - 8
    Endurance - 7
    Ring generalship - 10

    Overall - 84,5
     
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  5. ikrasevic

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    1988 Mike Tyson (Tubbs, Holmes, Spinks fights)
    1.Power: 9.5
    It would be 9 because the last name is not Foreman or Shavers, so it is not "superior", but in 1988, the only time Holmes and Spinks were knocked out
    2. Physical attributes: 8
    In 1988 there is only one word - explosiveness
    3. Handspeed, combination punching and accuracy: 10
    1988 - 10
    4. Footwork : 9
    5. Defense: 9
    Although Majku 1988 didn't need defense that much. Incredible head movement until 1988.
    6. Durability: 9
    Douglas needed a few very hard punches, as did Holyfield when it was no longer there in 1988.
    7. Heart : 8
    1988 - 8
    8. Killer instinct : 10
    9. Endurance: 7.5
    1988 - 8, but if he was fighting peak Holmes in 1988, hmmm
    10. Ring generalship: 8.5
    So young, and so short (also small reach) and to be remembered as - speedkills (a more brutal version of Rocky Marciano).
    Overall: 88,5
     
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  6. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Holmes

    1. Power : 7

    Had a good uppercut we saw vs Weaver and a solid right cross. But he never had a great left hook. He had a lot of stoppage wins but rarely vs a highly durable opponent. Respectable power.

    2. Physical attributes : 9


    3. Hand speed, combination punching and accuracy : 8

    He had good hand speed. Not as quick as Ali or Louis but very good. He was also highly accurate. However, his combinations were very standard and predictable. Not a great combination puncher

    4. Footwork : 8.5

    He had quick feet. However, even in his prime, he had periods where he would fight flat footed and run into big shots.

    5. Defense : 8

    Like i stated above, even when in his prime, he could run into big shots due to being flat footed at times. Still, a good defensive fighter who knew how to parry, use his feet to get out of range etc.

    6. Durability : 9.5

    Excellent chin. Only knocked down twice. No shame in being stopped by Tyson after such a long layoff.

    7. Heart : 10


    8. Killer instinct : 8


    9. Endurance : 9


    10. Ring generalship: 10

    Knew how to make the best


    Overall score: 87 out of 100.
     
  7. dmt

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    Holyfield

    1. Power : 8

    Underrated left hook. Knocked down iron jawed Mercer with it. Good right cross too.

    2. Physical attributes : 8


    3. Hand speed, combination punching and accuracy : 8.5

    Pretty good hand speed, high on accuracy too and knew how to put together excellent combinations. I still think he is a notch below peak Louis and Tyson when it comes to combination punching but still....

    4. Footwork : 8

    Not as fleet footed as peak Holmes let alone Ali. But he had good foot work.

    5. Defense : 7.5

    He had good defense but was far too willing to brawl and hence ran into a lot of unnecessary big shots at times


    6. Durability : 9.5

    Excellent chin. Only stopped once vs Bowe.

    7. Heart : 10


    8. Killer instinct : 9


    9. Endurance : 8.5


    10. Ring generalship: 9

    A little too willing to brawl at times but he dealt with a wide range of styles to hard to rate him lower than a 9.


    Overall score: 86 out of 100.
     
  8. Dynamicpuncher

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    Evander Holyfield

    Power - 7
    Whilst he had underrated power I don't think he's quite an 8 because he simply didn't stop many Heavyweights.

    Physical Attributes - 8 When he bulked up he was a good sized Heavyweight with a Greek god like physique.

    Handspeed, Combination punching, Accuracy - 8 Holyfield put punches together very well and had good handspeed. I would say his handspeed is of a similar level to Usyk I gave him an 8 so I'll go 8 for Holyfield aswell.

    Footwork - 8 Had good balance I feel like counter punches have to have very good balance. Could also move around the ring very well when he had to aka Bowe 2, Foreman.

    Defence - 6 Simply got hit way too much and got involved in too many brawls defence was not his strong point.

    Durability - 10 For the amount of wars he was in against bigger guys aswell his chin was tried and tested better than anyone.

    Heart - 10 The man was a warrior end of.

    Killer instinct - 9 When you hurt Holyfield he give it back and then some one of the best fighters at coming back when hurt he did have a real mean streak.

    Endurance - 9 Holyfield was one of the most well conditioned Heavyweights and often went the distance without being tired.

    Ring generalship - 7 He has had some good performances where he stuck to a gameplan Foreman, Tyson 1, Bowe 2. But he did get involved in brawls alot when he didn't have to so I'm going to rate him a bit lower based on that.

    Overall score = 82
     
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  9. White Bomber

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    You're supposed to rate the peak version, not overall. So he's a 10 in defense
     
  10. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    You are correct. I read the article a long time ago and i should have properly re-read it. Good call.
     
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    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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  12. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    After we are done in this thread going through all the top heavies, i will try to average the scores to come up with a final table.
     
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  15. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not a heavy, but for fun:

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