Ray Arcel on Hagler - Hearns.

arcel's a joke

 

You are a liar, plain and simple. And you have been caught lying on several occasions as well as making excuses.

 

And you seem mentally unstable plain and simple. You have been caught on several occasions being underhanded in your tactics here and you claim to be self aware and honest, which is a hypocrisy to how you are behaving.

 

Prove where I have been underhanded, liar. Just another lie coming from you.

 

You want proof. Fine. I don't mind it if you want it. You mentioned excuse maker first when you did not like what I said about Duran being an excusemaker when he was one, and you kept on with it saying it over and over as though I was the topic. Then when you heard what I said about mag and being him before and knowing that was me (as you admitted to-another dishonesty on your part), you mentioned that and stopped mention the excuse maker aspect and you went to the liar part. As though I care about what is said about me, it is more if some hypocrite who is not honest thinks he can mention liar or honesty and he is not, it amusing to show how he is not. And I think the proof is there with you. It just shows you wanted to use anything you could to demean what I said, and you moved from one thing to the next.

It had nothing to do with liar or anything else. That is underhanded and if you don't think so, you are the hypocrite which you are demonstrating, as well as being rather mentally unstable or immature. Immaturity would be better since you will grow out of that. I think you know you are underhanded and not too honest. I know when someone is not a great guy usually, and on a forum I usually cannot tell but you are being rather transparent on here. This is showing something about you. Oh absolutely. Hypocrisy is not a good trait, even though I really don't know you, you are demonstrating this. Going on and on about this with someone you don't know. I don't care. I will keep answering if I get responses. You are a game player and either very immature or mentally unstable. Maybe a poll can be put on here for people to vote on which one. In short it was you moved from one thing to the next and you were not honest with your tactics. That is underhanded. 100 percent. I proved it.

 

the thread is rather long. why dont we all just admit Arcel is a nit wit crying in his soup over the result

 

I have said over and over and over again what an excusemaker Duran is. On this thread alone I have written it a few times. You wrote that I did not like it when you wrote Duran was an excusemaker even though you I myself have written that he was one. You are lying YET AGAIN. No surprise there. You are a lying excusemaker or an excusemaking liar. Both. You can't mention one time where I have been underhanded or have not written the truth. You have lied several times on this thread alone, and I have exposed your lies on previous contributions on this thread alone. You have been exposed and simply cannot take responsibility for your lies and excuses.

 

Honestly, from what you show here you don't seem to have the respect for people which comes with maturity or knowledge and this negates the idea that you are this self aware person which you spoke of or insinuated you were, since you said I was not self awareso I would assume you meant you were? Accurate assumption?. I must tell you self awareness comes with age and maturity and humility. You are not showing any of those things. What you are demonstrating here is the opposite of the self aware quality. It is almost like you are this immature angry kid who is jealous of something and wants to use anything he can to insult the other person or demean him and gets more frustrated and angry when his points are not being made or believable, so he turns to insults like liar liar liar!!. So you used the excusemaker thing first with the same immature theme and attitude, and then the liar part came up based on trivial and ridiculous evidence. That is underhanded and dishonest because the issue of excusemaker or liar was not what you cared about, you wanted to just diminish. And now you are acting like you care about the liar part, when your immaturity and lack of respect eliminate you from being a real judge of anyone who lies or would do anything wrong. The thread should be renamed Cliftons opinion on Pernell -with hypocritical in parenthesis between Clifton and opinion.

 

On this thread alone I have demonstrated at least 3 of your lies. You want respect? Dont lie you lying excusemaker. Doesnt get any simpler than that.

 

You are underhanded and repetitive and dirty. The way you say lying over and over at the same time being underhanded and game playing. I think you are upset that I have proved you are underhanded and mean, and you started this to come down on me but it is exposing you as something other than honest and fair. When your evidence of me being a liar was not evidence at all. The only thing you have demonstrated is a disrespectful attitude and a lack of what is right and wrong. You are demonstrating this lack of morale decency. You go on and on about something like this with a stranger in an immature way and it is about lying, and yet you are being underhanded and you do not see it. So much for your self awareness.

 

I am neither underhanded nor dirty at all, and you most certainly have not proven me to be so. All is did was expose you for the lying excusemaker that you are. That is not dirty, just honest. Stop lying and making excuses and you will get more respect.

 

You have proven it in your posts here and your behavior. It is out here on the thread over and over again. I don't have to say anything. You changed tactics and kept on about something here when you used dirty ways. It is here on the thread. No one is making excuses. It is here. All you say about me is that I changed my name and didn't want to admit it was me. So what. That is my right. But you tried one thing and called me one thing, and then changed and used another tactic to demean my opinions about Duran, and I do think he is an excusemaker and overrated a bit. That will not change. He never knocked out a great fighter that is fact. The best was Cuevas who was washed up and 3 years from his title fight days. The Leonard first fight he could not stop Ray and Ray almost won fighting his tactic. That is what this is about and I stand by it. Duran is great but no way top 10 ATG.

 

Liar. As usual. I have not rated Duran as a top 10 atg because I have not made an atg list in years. Stop lying you excusemaking liar.

 

Quite frankly

You are a shameful liar. Shame on you, liar.