Ray Leonard v.s. Floyd Mayweather ...

Leonard 9-3 or 10-2. Whoever says Mayweather, is not someone you should be reading the posts of, no offense.

Leonard is just better than Mayweather.

 

And dropped a huge MW in Iran Barkley.

 

The whole idea that Duran doesn't have the power to drop Mayweather is ridiculous.

 

Because like many sports, defense is only 1/2 of the story. You also need to be able to land more meaningful punches than your opponent,as well, and l just don't see that happening against SRL or Duran, who was a much better defensive fighter than given credit for.

 

Ray knows how to throw that looping right which I believe is key to beating Floyd. Ray was aggressive without throwing a lot of punches and knew how to get to the openings. He would win about 8 rds to 4 IMO.

 

Who said that?

 

Yeah, that sounds reasonable to me.

 

Me too!

 

Defense does not win fights though.

Leonard threw more combinations, had a better punch output and was bigger (taller and better reach).

Floyd has never dealt with someone like Leonard. He would probably retreat in a shell and lose a UD.If he does not, he would get KOD.

 

Floyd wouldn't fight Ray in his prime anyway ala Manny.

 

I recognize Floyds defensive greatness,

however, Floyd has never fought anyone as fast as SRL,,, Floyd is what he is because of great speed, reflexes and timing. SRL potentially takes that away from him and that can sometimes change the course of a entire fight.

Here is the scoop, in his prime Floyd had a couple of very close fights with a few guys. One of those guys was pretty close to beating him straight up. Castillo or however its spelt. Castillo is good but he was no Roberto Duran. As well he was no SRL.

I am not saying SRL wins 100% certain. I am saying SRL was spooky fast, he could stay in the pocket and out speed everyone he ever faced other than Norris when he was past it. I am saying I would bet SRL would beat Floyd in what could be a good fight.

Part of that is because SRL was naturally a bit bigger than Floyd in their primes so its not like I think SRL is head and shoulders better than Floyd, I admit it is a excellent match up. SRL fought and beat 3 ATGs. That stands for a lot. He moved up to 160 to face the one of the greatest ever. Even if he lost to Hagler as some claim the fact that it was such a close fight was incredible as far as SRL going up so many pounds against such dangerous and proven talent.

 

Ffs Kevin are you for real? Leonard would beat the **** out of Mayweather, It's a total mismatch.

Nope. Duran had great speed. He's very underrated in terms of speed. If Shane can land that shot Flush on Mayweather Duran sure as hell can, and would not stop afterwards . Mayweather would find it hard to land flush on Duran. let's not forget Duran also had an amazing defence.

 

Great post. Yeah, I agree that Leonard's speed and ability to control range would most likely give Floyd serious difficulty. If I had to bet, I would pick Leonard to win by decision. Can't cosign some of exaggerations from other folks though.

I disagree with the Duran > Castillo, so Floyd would lose to Duran argument though, just as I'm sure most folks would disagree that anyone better than Kirkland Laing would beat Duran (and at least Floyd had a serious injury excuse...).

 

How about the argument that Duran is simply a better fighter than Mayweather. Mayweather himself has listed Duran as the 2nd best all time behind himself. Now most of those who have watched both, including Angelo Dundee and Harold Lederman, think on a h2h basis, Duran wins.

I personally just don't see how Mayweather could deal with the constant pressure that would be applied during a 12-15 round fight, and I don't think he can move and pot shot his way to victory and he sure as hell can't trade shots with him nor is he going to beat him on the inside.

Eventually Duran's constant pressure would result in him land something that would stun Mayweather, likely by a body shot, and it would be the beginning of the end for him. Mayweather on the other hand couldn't really hurt Duran, who took shots from the likes of SRL, Hagler, Moore, and Barkley among others, and even if he could, Duran would be willing to go out on his shield to win. So it's essentially a loose-loose situation for Mayweather, unless he can run for 12-15 rounds and pot shot his way to victory.

Now if the Laing version of Duran, or the Benitez version of Duran showed up, or the No Mas version, then yes, Mayweather could win, but H2h on their best days, I'd pick Duran.