Ray Leonard vs Clinton 'The Sheriff' Jackson (March 1981) - 'Ray Says No'

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  1. Senor Pepe'

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    You would think that Ray would want to challenge Clint Jackson,

    As Clint had defeated brother Roger in the July 1978 Sports Festival
    Tournament, where Clinton went on to win the (67 Kg) Welterweight
    Championship.

    Clint was a more highly decorated amateur than Ray Leonard was, except
    for the 1976 Olympics.
     
  2. PityTheFool

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    Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things?
    It's hardly a blot on his legacy.
     
  3. Hands of Iron

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    Considering he fought Kalule and Hearns the same year, I think it's safe to say No. :lol:
     
  4. Senor Pepe'

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    Actually, No in the grand scheme of things.

    Anybody with a brain would have taken Larry Bonds over Clint Jackson
    as a 'non-mandatory' defense.

    Larry Bonds wasn't beating anybody.
     
  5. ron u.k.

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    It seems that Pepe has exhausted his tirade against Ali and has now moved on to Leonard.
    By the time he's finished Ali and Leonard will be the two most protected and bent fighters in boxing history!
     
  6. Hands of Iron

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    It was Benitez whom Leonard defeated to become the WBC welterweight champion. That was on Nov. 30, 1979, barely two years ago. In 22 months Leonard fought Benitez, Roberto Duran twice, Ayub Kalule, Hearns, champions all, a combined 177-1-1 record going in against him. Hearns and Kalule had never been knocked down. Leonard knocked them down. Hearns, the WBA welterweight champion, and Kalule, the WBA junior middleweight champ, were unbeaten. Leonard knocked out Kalule in the ninth round in Houston on June 25, 1981 and stopped Hearns in the 14th round in Las Vegas on Sept. 16, 1981. Did any boxer ever have five fights against such diverse and accomplished opponents in such a short period? Damn few.

    And, in the end, this 22-month test comes down to the 13th round against Hearns. Leonard has to knock him out to win. Angelo Dundee, Leonard's trainer, is leaning into his ear, nearly shouting, but Leonard is looking, as if transfixed, at Hearns. "I heard every word Angelo said, but—watch the tapes—you won't see me respond," Leonard says, "because I already knew myself what I had to do."



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  7. Seamus

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    Wow. I think Pepe has discovered that fighters have people called "managers" that actually "manage" their careers, trying to maximize the income from their fighter's shelf life by navigating opponents and negotiating contracts.

    Who of thunk it?
     
  8. Flea Man

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    This post really made me smile :good
     
  9. ron u.k.

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    Outrageous. He turned down the 9th ranked contender to fight the 10th. What would he do if he had to fight guys in the top 3. Oh but wait a minute..
     
  10. Hands of Iron

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    I just really don't see Ray Leonard up through 1981-82 as a fighter worthy of much criticism. People are on here whining about rematches and such when today you can't even get the elite to meet eachother in the ring even once, for any amount of money. And when were these supposed to take place? He was running through one great fighter after another. Are we really going to dispute he had a detached retina discovered in '82? Really?
     
  11. Senor Pepe'

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    I did not say Ray Leonard wasn't a great fighter.

    That would be a foolish statement.

    Only, he didn't want to fight Clint Jackson in March 1981.
     
  12. ThinBlack

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    I remember reading somewhere that Clint did have Roger's number as an amateur, though Roger beat Clint in the '78 AAU finals.
     
  13. Senor Pepe'

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    Mr Thin,

    Correct,

    Roger Leonard did defeat (W Dec 3) Clinton Jackson in the Finals of the
    April 1978 United States Championship in Biloxi, Mississippi at (67 Kg) Welterweight.

    Clint defeated (W Dec 3) Roger in the Semi-Finals at the Sports Festival Tournament
    in Fort Carson, Texas in July 1978, also at (67 Kg) Welterweight.

    Clint had several wins over Roger Leonard. In head-to-head match-up's, I believe
    it was 6-2 for 'The Sheriff'.

    'The Sheriff' turned professional in August 1979, after losing at the June 1979 Pan Am
    Games Trials at (71 Kg) Light-Middleweight.
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    Clint had some tough losses in the Amateurs.

    August 30, 1974 (World Championships in Cuba)
    67 (Kg) Welterweight Finals - Clint was stopped (RSC 3) by Emilio Corrrea.

    July 28, 1976 (Summer Olympics in Montreal)
    67 (Kg) Welterweight - Clint lost a 3:2 Split-Decision to Pedro Gamarro in the Quarter-Finals.

    January 29, 1977 (USA vs USSR in Las Vegas)
    71 (Kg) Light-Middleweight - Clint was stopped (RSC 2) by Victor Savchenko

    October 6, 1978 (USA vs. Cuba in New York)
    67 (Kg) Welterwweight - Clint was stopped (L KO 1) by Andres Aldama

    Final Amateur Record.....139-14

    Turned professional at age 25, a bit on the old side.