Ray Leonard vs Mayweather Jr

Floyd would do well, maybe even very well, but he still loses. Leonard has crazy combination speed, good power, fast feet, good ring intelligence, adaptability, great chin, the natural size advantage, silky skills, and a deep well of stamina. Just about the only advantage Mayweather has is defence, and that's not enough, although it would certainly give Leonard trouble.

Honestly though, can you imagine Floyd leaning back on the ropes and trying to shoulder-roll combinations at the speed Leonard throws them? Or how about trying to imagine Floyd dealing with a moving target for a change, a guy that can actually get up on his toes and dance around the ring? Floyd also depends on his superior stamina to drag his foes into deep water and dissect them in the latter part of the fight, but Leonard doesn't fade like that at all, in fact he was conditioned to go 15 rounds. Floyd cannot knock him out, because Leonard's chin survived Duran, Hearns and Hagler...so Floyd's only shot is to outbox him. But winning on points is equally difficult due to Floyd's low output -- he potshots people and thus sometimes loses rounds based on activity alone. Leonard would JUMP on this aspect, and he'd steal rounds with constant flurries, like a much better version of what Hoya did in some rounds. Leonard would get tagged coming in quite a bit, as Floyd is a very slick counter-puncher with refined timing and great speed, but for every one punch he takes Leonard would give about three in return, as he's not shy to let his hands go at all. He has the footspeed and elegant footwork to cut the ring off, too...so Floyd would get driven to the ropes and outworked there.

Bad style matchup for PBF, but then again Leonard is pretty much a bad style matchup for nearly anyone due to his all-round abilities. Hearns would be an even bigger nightmare for Floyd, though...

 

And thats what floyd brings to the table better than anybody that has ever put on a pair of gloves.... You could watch 5 different fights of his and swear up and down he is 5 different fighters......

And oh Ray was So unbeatable Why did he get his ass whipped by Norris???? And i dropped a couple of tears that night...

 

Come on dude...even boxrec can answer that one for you.

 

Mayweather would wins 3 rounds. Leonard wins by TKO with his amazing speed by no later than 11th.

 

SRL Would weight 170 with a 24 hour weight in and be as fast as Jr . Even SR is bigger than Jr.

 

Funny how boxers from another era take on this air of invincibility in the minds of so many. I don't think this fight would be anywhere near as one-sided as some are saying. The Shane fight will be a good barometer of how this matchup would play out.

 

Why is it hard to understand that SRR and SRL are much bigger guys and just as fast? SRL was 5 11 Mosely is 5 8. SRR weighed 144 when he lost to the raging bull. Lamotta weighed 160.5 These guy took changes and fought everyone .

 

i see floyd giving leonard trouble at the outset with his speed and movement. but floyd's just too inactive offensively and doesn't have the power to put a hurt on leonard. i think sr has a better chin too but jr is way more elusive. prime leonard wins this 10 times out of 10.

 

Again, the Shane fight will be a good barometer. Speed and power are not all that wins fights at this level. Technique and ring intelligence are just as/more important in many cases. Not even talking about SRR but as far as the topic SRL vs. Floyd, its hard for me to say how it would play out until I see Floyd against a bigger guy whose just as fast in Shane. Sugar Ray was more technical than Shane in my assessment which would make this sort of matchup more intriguing. But I don't think the recipe for walking over Mayweather is to be as fast as him but bigger.

 

The problem is, Mosley doesn't have the footspeed/footwork to truly push Floyd. Fast hands don't mean that much if you can't corner Floyd or cut off the ring. Leonard, on the other hand, had great footwork and footspeed, which is why I think using the Shane match as a measuring stick would be a bad idea.

 

I mean its plain to see in the video that jr got alot from dad (chin tuck, "check" hook). Sr was more aggressive though and had a better jab. Not as good defensively as young Floyd.

But Leonard was just feeling him out measuring him, Ray was just too quick and explosive. I give Floyd jr very little chance.

 

Shane has good footspeed also. In any case, It is quite clear that Shane does not fight like SRL, but he is a bigger, stronger guy who is just as fast as Floyd. What can be taken from this fight is how Floyd handles the challenge. If there is any barometer in Floyd's career for how he'd do against SRL, this would be it.

 

leonard will win and leonard will always be more exciting fighter

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I don't agree with your comments on Hagler, but other than that I do see where you're coming from to an extent. However, I'd have more sympathy with the "old fighter bias" thing if people were saying something like Rocky Marciano would KO Vitali Klitschko, or Jake LaMotta would thrash Roy Jones, but Leonard-Mayweather at welter?? Come on man. Not appropriate.