Ray Leonard's autobiography

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  1. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who's read it ?

    I enjoyed it. Good to see the real man behind the image.
     
  2. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I read it. It's a good read and I think Ray was very honest. I think he recognizes the times when he was a ***** during his career and life in general, is contrite, and I think he's grown as a person. He has always been very complimentary of his opponents and that certainly hasn't changed. I don't think it's going to blow anybody away, but I'd recommend it.
     
  3. RafaelGonzal

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    what a drug using, wife beating, scumbag.
     
  4. SUGAR J

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    He has admitted he was a *****, give the guy a break.
     
  5. fists of fury

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    Yeah, read it last week. One of the more enjoyable books I've read lately.

    Some fascinating insights as to what made him tick both in and out of the ring. I found it pretty forthright and honest...often he'd admit he was being a dick about something or to someone.

    I read the Hearns biography just before this book (Hit Man), but I preferred Leonard's book.
    I just wish it was a little longer though. I felt he could have gone into a bit more detail in some areas, and it's pretty devoid of photos. (Just a few small ones in the middle of the book.)
    But still, very good read.
     
  6. McGrain

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    I found it tiresome, smothered in a kind of warped "higher power" AA type BS. Fair enough, he's told the truth, but it's not a Tapia effort is it? Putting the seaky, cowardly things he did off on "Sugar Ray" as though this third party wasn't him or some ****.
     
  7. fists of fury

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    I dunno about that...I see what you're saying, but that's not really the impression I got at all.

    I don't recall him blaming 'Sugar Ray' for his alchohol, drug and womanising problems for instance.
     
  8. McGrain

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    He blamed him in every chapter. He doesn't go "I was drinking because of Sugar Ray." He'll go, "The boys wanted me to go over, but I didn't want to. But Sugar Ray had to be fed..." or some **** like that. It was everywhere as I remember it.
     
  9. Bonavena25

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    Just finished it last week. Enjoyed it, but didn't really feel any empathy for this so called 'pain' that he kept going on about. Was the drink and drug excess really due to some white dude fondling his **** in the front of a car? He seemed a bit of a drama queen and alot of his problems were self-inflicted, so I didn't really pay attention to those parts of the book. Found the boxing side very interesting though and overall I would recommend it.
     
  10. McGrain

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    That's a good post and fair play to you for making it because I bottled it. He was crazy for bringing up that white dude giving him a stroke - when he was already a world class am boxer btw.

    He just seemed very ready to embrace that excuse. "Ooooo, that white guy rubbed me balls when i was 18 so i went on the mad lash in my mid-twenties!"
     
  11. fists of fury

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    You are remarkably flippant about sexual molestation.
     
  12. McGrain

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    Yeah, that's exactly why i was reluctant to mention it. Labelling it as an excuse is flippant at the best of times, perhaps it's the overall quilt of excuse-making i felt consituted the memoir coloured it.
     
  13. Stevie G

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    I have n't read the Hitman's one yet. Next on my list.
     
  14. Stevie G

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    It was a way of rationalising the bad side of his character. I too think that he should be given a break. He went through a phase of being an arsehole,and he fully admits it.
     
  15. Bonavena25

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    :lol:

    If he was a little kid then it would be a different matter but at the age he was at time (around 18?) then it's one of those incidents you would chalk down to being a bit ****ed up of course but ultimately the sort of thing you end laughing about to your friends and thinking what a weirdo the guy was rather than deflecting the stigma inwards and letting it affect you so much in later life.