Ray Mancini: Pacquiao Has Accomplished A Lot More Than Floyd; Top 30 ATG...

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  1. BoxingDialogue

    BoxingDialogue Active Member Full Member

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    I was thinking who the hell told Ray that was a good idea? Talk about bad management.
     
  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yes, that same insecurity prevents people from admitting when theyre wrong. you can show them irrefutable evidence that theyre wrong, and they cant handle the thought of admitting it. its like children who block out trauma because they cant handle the emotional pain involved. these grown men cant handle the thought of a man they dont even know, not being who they want them to be. they are just so frickin weak.
     
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  3. Huberth

    Huberth Active Member Full Member

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    Pac’s Legendary career still growing, While Floyd’s career is done.
     
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  4. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I honestly dont even know how that is even debatable. 8 division titles is by far the greater accomplishment.
     
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  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd would still rank higher with the experts, but Pac did not lose to Horn, any more than he ever lost to Bradley.
    Home cookin at its finest.
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    The 154 title was against a welterweight at a catchweight, and 135 was against David Diaz who had no business holding a title. Pacquiao doesn't need the "8 division champion" thing thrown around because it cheapens what he actually accomplished.
     
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  7. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No matter how you want to try to knock it it is still an accomplishment only he has achieved. Point being it still trumps 50-0
     
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  8. vast

    vast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Absolutely.
     
  9. Boxcel

    Boxcel Member Full Member

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    Pac beat Margarito who had a 6 inch reach advantage over him and 5 inches of height. Floyd's tallest opponent Corrales had only 2.5 inches on him and a 2 inch reach disadvantage. Lol. Oscar with 2 inches and 1 inch reach advantage.

    When you compare 2 fighters with similar achievements, the smaller fighter is always the better p4p
     
  10. recycling

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    Tough criticism but I do think its fair. Although, the berto win is barely better then broner and matthysse so I do think it deserves a little asterisks as well. Actually, broner win and berto is debatable at the least. Both fighters are somewhat similar but at least broner really did have the potential if he could stay disciplined.

    I also give pac a little more credit for being the aggressive fighter while being older and smaller. Floyds win over berto was mostly tactical, while pac was tactically in charge while also having his opponents on the verge of being stopped or in full defensive mode.
     
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  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    So Tommy Hearns wasn't pfp?
     
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  12. Pound4PoundGG

    Pound4PoundGG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd may have won the battle, but make no mistake about it only one man won the WAR!!!!!!!
     
  13. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Member Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Leonard won the light heavyweight title at a catchweight of 168, does anyone take that away from him? No, because boxing often sets its own rules within the rules. You can’t just take away Mannys achievements because you don’t agree with who he fought. You would have to do it for a long list of fighters as well, even the ones you like.
     
  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I do not and many others do not count Leonard as a ****ing 175 champion. Have some integrity.
     
  15. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Member Full Member

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    History counts it though.
     


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