Ray Mancini v Bobby Chacon - how does it rate on the superfight scale?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    How huge was it?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s6yqhLZ0T8[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz9Xw_LNv78[/ame]

    Disappointed a bit as a contest of course:
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KZp-GCTSUc[/ame]

    But how huge, anyone following the fight game then remember the levels of buzz etc.? How did it compare to, say, Trinidad-Oscar?
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I thought it was a superb fight. While it lasted, although slightly one-sided.

    Strange that Mancini would never win another fight after this.
     
  3. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was on home TV.

    Chacon was a featherweight who had moved up...been in some wars, and was shop worn.

    The end result was predictable "pre-fight".
     
  4. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    there wasn't the typical amount of pre-fight buildup so prevalent in true Superfights, and neither of these two guys had the same Ray Leonard-Roberto Duran appeal on a true mainstream level. In that way then, it was a bit different. Still, it was Mancini and Chacon, and everyone knew that meant action, so people were enthused. Just not on a real "superfight" level.
     
  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    It wasn't a "superfight" at all. Not even close to being one. Mancini was figured to win and he did without much trouble.
     
  6. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not a superfight, most expected it to be a good action fight because of both men and there styles but it did not even live up to that
     
  7. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    It was no super fight at all .. Mancini was the golden boy , Chacon a shot former champ fighting out of his weight class ... far more along the lines of how HBO padded Gatti's record with a Jesse James Leigh than anything else ... a prime Chacon would have torn Ray's head off ...
     
  8. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even stranger that Chacon would never again be defeated.

    Bobby closed out his career by going 7-0-0 over the final four and a half years of his career. Schoolboy's next five opponents were a combined 108-20-2. He took a decision over Freddie Roach, stopped Rafael Solis in five (sending him into a career ending 0-9 tailspin), sent promising 22-2-0 Carlton "Two Gun" Sparrow into an 0-4 finish after also stopping him in five, and retired Art Frias in seven. Chacon got up from around half a dozen first and second round knockdowns during this undefeated stretch.

    I can't help but wonder what he might have achieved had he combined the conditioning ethic of his late career with his youthful talent. Could he have gone 3-0 over Olivares, 4-0 over Limon, and 2-0 over Boza Edwards? What happens if he applies first rate dedication against Arguello?

    Mancini-Chacon was a superfight in terms of preliminary build-up, with the human interest angle about each, but Bobby could not afford a slow start against the same champion who defended in the Deuk-Koo Kim disaster. Had it not been for that tragedy, fans would have been screaming that Mancini-Chacon was stopped with obscene prematurity, given Schoolboy's recent propensity for making late comebacks, but he got an excellent paycheck, and came out none the worse for wear. I do wonder a little about what might have happened if Bobby had gotten the same opportunity to continue that he was just allowed in Boza Edwards II, considering how Ray lost his title to Bramble five months later. Would this have evolved into an epic classic, or another tragedy?
     
  9. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh, I have the fight from '84 on tape... I saw it live... I knew it was a mismatch from the getgo... Mancini a solid 10 yrs younger and way naturally stronger at 135 pounds was just too much of a dynamo for Bobby Chacon to overcome... Chacon got paid $575,000 G's for getting his ass kicked inside 3 rds... Mancini earned $1.2 million...

    MR.BILL

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    The fight aired in March 1984 on regular HBO... It was not a PPV event, so to me it really wasn't a big super-fight...
     
  10. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :goodGreat post,man:good
     
  11. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    I guess Chacon was still immensely popular but if you follow his career trajectory and the fact he was moving up again, not much of a contest. And, as always, he took a ****ing leathering.

    EDIT: Duo great post...but I think he went 0-2 with Boza anyway!