Ray Mercer: All Time Chin?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by reznick, Sep 13, 2017.


  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

    15,903
    7,626
    Mar 17, 2010
    Do you guys think Mercer had an all time chin?
    He survived on his feet with some of the biggest punchers of his era.
    And one could argue that he won the Morrison fight with his chin.
    Briggs took him down, but he was way gone at that point.

    What do you guys think?
     
    lloydturnip likes this.
  2. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,343
    1,524
    Apr 26, 2015
    Great chin. Not much of a fighter.
     
  3. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

    14,841
    19,083
    Sep 5, 2016
    Enough to beat Morrison, Damiani and take Lennox to the very brink. Not bad for a guy who wasn't much of a fighter.
     
  4. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,647
    9,457
    Jan 10, 2007
    Absolutely YES.

    Before 40 Mercer took best, clean punches and series of punches from Bert Cooper, Damini, Morrison, Holmes, Holyfield, Lewis, Witherspoon.

    Was rarely hurt, took a knee once vs Holy.

    At 41 was dropped by Wlad's murderous double left hook, but got up and took bombs for 5 more rounds without going down.

    At 44 faked a KO loss to Briggs trying to get a DQ win (which Mercer later talked about in one of interviews). Briggs hit him few times while holding, so Ray went down and was waiting for DQ. That hasnt happened.

    ATG chin without a doubt.
     
  5. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

    58,748
    21,557
    Nov 24, 2005
    Great chin and he was strong, tough and determined to go with it !
    I was impressed by his Olympic performances but he never had the discipline (nor the skills) to condition himself for the professional elite. He was a solid gatekeeper.
     
    lloydturnip likes this.
  6. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    20,104
    6,332
    Jan 22, 2009
    An atg chin, no question. He's a truly tough guy. I have always liked Sergeant Ray
     
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2021
  7. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

    24,179
    17,308
    Sep 29, 2008
    If Mercer didn't have an ATG at HW, I don't know who does. The guy took bombs and kept coming. Like someone said, he was knocked down like what, once, when he was in his prime, and that was a flash KD.
     
  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

    55,255
    10,334
    Jun 29, 2007
    Huh? Perry, did you watch his career? Mercer won a gold medal at the Olympics, you need some skill to do that. As a professional. Mercer had a very good jab and good right hand. Okay, he wasn't the fastest or the best on defense.

    For not much of a fighter, he almost beat a prime Lennox Lewis. Some felt the fight was a draw.

    If Mercer was in his prime today, he could be the #1 guy.

    And Yes, he had a very good chin, tested by Lewis, Morrison, and Holyfield. Also tested out of his prime by Wlad who unloaded on him before he was stopped.

    Mercer's biggest problem was focus in and out of the ring.
     
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2017
  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

    55,255
    10,334
    Jun 29, 2007
    I'd say he was a bit more than a gatekeeper. A contender is a talent rich time.
     
  10. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

    58,646
    77,975
    Aug 21, 2012
    P4P one of the greatest chins in boxing. Let's not forget, he wasn't a particularly big HW either. What's more he was basically all round tough. His body must have been made of something special, because the beating he took en route to winning against Cooper was horrendous and that's the sort of punishment that ends careers. I don't think Bert Cooper was ever really the same again, but Mercer just picked up where he left off.
     
  11. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

    58,748
    21,557
    Nov 24, 2005
    He was in the top 10 but firmly took the role of the gatekeeper. If you beat Mercer you might get a shot at the title.
    He beat some prospects and fringe contenders, gave a couple of the elite contenders a good fight and he struggled with some journeymen.
     
  12. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

    14,841
    19,083
    Sep 5, 2016
    Perry's just a clueless disrespectful trollbaiter who thinks that because he's been around the block and watched some historically respected fighters live that gives him the right to talk smack about anyone he so chooses. It doesn't, nor does it make his opinions beyond question, especially when they're formulated from such a delusional and non-objective viewpoint.

    At least he acknowledges that Mercer had a top class chin, though he'd probably consider someone like Dempsey or Baer to have a better one.
     
    Howitzer1888, mrkoolkevin and ticar like this.
  13. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

    1,020
    889
    Sep 11, 2017
    Another fascinating thread. As a new guy here, please recommend the one or two Mercer fights I should seek out on YouTube. Every day, this forum teaches me more about the sport I love. Many thanks in advance.
     
  14. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

    58,748
    21,557
    Nov 24, 2005
    This content is protected


    This content is protected
     
    Gudetama likes this.
  15. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,343
    1,524
    Apr 26, 2015
    No doubt a great chin. He just did not exhibit ability. Not much of a defense. Very predictable offensively. Unfortunately Mercer never progressed much from his amateur days.
     
    Unforgiven likes this.